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Old August 13 2013, 03:07 AM   #1
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John Christopher a Regular?

For a long time I've felt that the Captain John Christopher character from Tomorrow is Yesterday would have made a great TOS regular . He would have given an interesting fresh perspective to some 23rd century events. Plus it would have a built in tension as history shows he lived out his life in his own era, so Kirk and Co. know they will return him to his proper place in time. But, how and when?
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Old August 13 2013, 04:00 AM   #2
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I like this idea. If I understood correctly, Christopher would stay on for several episodes while the crew is working on a solution for returning him to his own time. This would totally work in a modern day series where successful series can pretty much plan out their episodes for each season. Ultimately there would be "a very special episode" where the solution would be found and Christopher would leave after some tearful goodbyes with the regulars and possibly a touching scene between him and Kirk or Spock.

Trouble is, I don't think TV series of the 1960s dealt with that sense of continuity that is so common today (where TV dramas and comedies have a structure that resembles more that of the soap opera). Each episode was made as a self-contained story (which is why you can jump around from season to season and not find yourself asking a lot of questions about who the new characters are and why are these two dating now because I thought they hated each other...etc...).
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Old August 13 2013, 06:29 AM   #3
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Eh, he wasn't that interesting a character.
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Old August 14 2013, 02:59 AM   #4
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I don't really see the point.
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Old August 14 2013, 03:08 AM   #5
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. . .Plus it would have a built in tension as history shows he lived out his life in his own era, so Kirk and Co. know they will return him to his proper place in time. . .
Which means he would have been too important to send on landing parties, and be stuck on a ship he didn't want to be on in the first place, and had already tried to escape from. It's not that the crew knows they'll return him to his place in time, it's that they have to keep him alive long enough to make the attempt that they're not even sure will work.
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Old August 14 2013, 03:25 AM   #6
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. . .Plus it would have a built in tension as history shows he lived out his life in his own era, so Kirk and Co. know they will return him to his proper place in time. . .
Which means he would have been too important to send on landing parties, and be stuck on a ship he didn't want to be on in the first place, and had already tried to escape from. It's not that the crew knows they'll return him to his place in time, it's that they have to keep him alive long enough to make the attempt that they're not even sure will work.
I think the idea is that he would have to stay on as the crew is still working on how to send him back. Meanwhile, new adventures ensue and occasionally Christopher is just the right man for the job. Being a gung-ho kinda guy, he volunteers on those occasions and, despite protests from Kirk, Spock et al., it is decided that he has to be part of the given mission. You could even have some teasers before commercial cuts where McCoy says, "Oh God, I think he really is dead this time Jim! May Heaven help us!" Until we finally get to the episode where someone figures out how to get him back and we have a heartfelt scene and off he goes. Kirk makes a profound statement and/or the crew exchange a nostalgic chuckle, Warp 2 Mr. Sulu, Aye Warp 2 sir. Roll credits.
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Old August 14 2013, 03:31 AM   #7
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The other problem with the scenario is you have the Enterprise stuck at Earth in 1968 for X number of episodes with no place to go and investigate. They're cut off from Starfleet and any repair facilities. They can't go to Vulcan or anywhere else without contaminating timelines.
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Old August 14 2013, 03:35 AM   #8
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The other problem with the scenario is you have the Enterprise stuck at Earth in 1968 for X number of episodes with no place to go and investigate. They're cut off from Starfleet and any repair facilities. They can't go to Vulcan or anywhere else without contaminating timelines.
Presumably they can leave 1968, screw up timelines and then have everything return to normal next season when they figure out how to send him back. Might even have an episode where he meets his great great great great etc... grandson who turns out to be Harry Mudd!
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Old August 14 2013, 04:46 AM   #9
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And with that silliness, I'm outta here.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:19 AM   #10
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Garrovick would have been a better choice.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:55 AM   #11
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I've said it before, but the guest who should have been a regular was Dr. Helen Noel. I have nothing against McCoy, but she would have been a more interesting foil for Kirk and Spock.
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Old August 14 2013, 06:21 AM   #12
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And with that silliness, I'm outta here.
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Old August 15 2013, 01:14 AM   #13
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A very underrated character. Plus, the first human to travel beyond earth orbit.
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Old August 15 2013, 02:27 AM   #14
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A very underrated character. Plus, the first human to travel beyond earth orbit.
yes he really is an interesting character. I really do wish there would have been some way to work him into the regular cast but as others have pointed out it would really be difficult to do so without totally disrupting timelines.
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Old August 15 2013, 03:31 AM   #15
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What exactly is interesting about him?
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