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Old August 13 2013, 08:42 PM   #31
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Re: The STAR TREK Movies, As Ranked By STAR TREK Con-Goers

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Yes, it says some people like GEN, NEM, and FF more they liked 09 and ID. Beyond that, it says nothing.
My rebuttal, done for me:

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Rating STiD so low reeks of that "get off my lawn" mentality as it relates to having Khan in this movie, and probably the immensely false perception that this is somehow a rip off of TWOK when approximately 5-8 minutes of this two hour film really focuses on anything from TWOK.

I sawy this only because the 2009 film was ranked better.

Either way they are a tiny minority. 87% of critics liked it with 242 reviews and according to RT 91% of the RT members like it as well with well over 200,000 reviews.
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Old August 13 2013, 09:41 PM   #32
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Yes, it says some people like GEN, NEM, and FF more they liked 09 and ID. Beyond that, it says nothing.
My rebuttal, done for me:

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Rating STiD so low reeks of that "get off my lawn" mentality as it relates to having Khan in this movie, and probably the immensely false perception that this is somehow a rip off of TWOK when approximately 5-8 minutes of this two hour film really focuses on anything from TWOK.

I sawy this only because the 2009 film was ranked better.

Either way they are a tiny minority. 87% of critics liked it with 242 reviews and according to RT 91% of the RT members like it as well with well over 200,000 reviews.
How exactly is that a rebuttal? And a rebuttal of what?
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Rating STiD so low reeks of that "get off my lawn" mentality as it relates to having Khan in this movie, and probably the immensely false perception that this is somehow a rip off of TWOK when approximately 5-8 minutes of this two hour film really focuses on anything from TWOK.
Or, if I can offer a simpler explanation, fans rate it low simply because they didn't like the movie. It doesn't require any deep psychological analysis; it really is that simple.
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Old August 13 2013, 10:34 PM   #33
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Or, if I can offer a simpler explanation, fans rate it low simply because they didn't like the movie. It doesn't require any deep psychological analysis; it really is that simple.
Taste is subjective and can change over the years. I use to like Generations and hate Nemesis, now it's the other way around.
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Old August 13 2013, 10:42 PM   #34
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http://badassdigest.com/2013/08/11/t...rek-con-goers/


Apparently this is their list of best ST films


1. The Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. The Voyage Home
5. The Search for Spock
6. Star Trek (2009)
7. Galaxy Quest (!!!)
8. Generations
9. The Motion Picture
10. Nemesis
11. Insurrection
12. The Final Frontier
13. Into Darkness
What the hell is First Contact doing at No 2 ? None of the TNG films (and I loved the show) were much good.

TMP is an overlooked gem and I'd have it at No 3 but 2009 and in particular Into Darkness are way better than they polled...
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Old August 13 2013, 10:54 PM   #35
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1977-2008: "You can't recast Kirk and Spock!"

2013: "You can't recast Khan!!"
2025: "You can't replace Pine and Quinto!"
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Old August 14 2013, 12:25 AM   #36
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1977-2008: "You can't recast Kirk and Spock!"

2013: "You can't recast Khan!!"
2025: "You can't replace Pine and Quinto!"
It will likely be around 2017 or 18 when that happens.
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Old August 14 2013, 12:35 AM   #37
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FP?
Probably "Forbidden Planet".
Yep, I was trying to be consistent.

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Old August 14 2013, 01:00 AM   #38
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1977-2008: "You can't recast Kirk and Spock!"

2013: "You can't recast Khan!!"
2025: "You can't replace Pine and Quinto!"
I await a more recent entry:

2016: "You can't replace JJ Abrams!"
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Old August 14 2013, 01:18 AM   #39
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Or, if I can offer a simpler explanation, fans rate it low simply because they didn't like the movie. It doesn't require any deep psychological analysis; it really is that simple.
Taste is subjective and can change over the years. I use to like Generations and hate Nemesis, now it's the other way around.
TUC used to be my favorite, but now I find it pretty mediocre.

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2016: "You can't replace JJ Abrams!"
There's already a thread for that.
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Old August 14 2013, 01:58 AM   #40
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Rating STiD so low reeks of that "get off my lawn" mentality as it relates to having Khan in this movie, and probably the immensely false perception that this is somehow a rip off of TWOK when approximately 5-8 minutes of this two hour film really focuses on anything from TWOK.
Or, if I can offer a simpler explanation, fans rate it low simply because they didn't like the movie. It doesn't require any deep psychological analysis; it really is that simple.
What I said simply comes from observations of what a TON of people who have disliked the movie has said.

I find it misinformed. I've lost count of the times I've read that ID is a remake of WOK or how many times I have had friends message me and ask if they should see it because they hear it was just a WOK remake.

If people want to say they dislike it for using a moment from a previous movie in this new universe that is up to them for sure. But my experience has been what I posted about.
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Old August 14 2013, 09:01 AM   #41
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Don't make William Shatner cry. Somebody needs to rate TFF higher.
I can't, I just can't. Last weekend I put on the DVD with my girlfriend (who's seen all the others bar TMP) and we got to the Uhura dance and for the first time in watching Trek since 1979 turned it off, and put another sci-fi DVD from 1989 in the PS3 that simply blew it into the weeds - The Abyss Special Edition.

I love all the Trek movies in some capacity, but bar the campfire scene The Final Frontier is an absolute turd.
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Old August 14 2013, 09:01 AM   #42
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Don't make William Shatner cry. Somebody needs to rate TFF higher.
I can't, I just can't. Last weekend I put on the DVD with my girlfriend (who's seen all the others bar TMP) and we got to the Uhura dance and for the first time in watching Trek since 1979 turned it off, and put another sci-fi DVD from 1989 in the PS3 that simply blew it into the weeds - The Abyss Special Edition.

I love all the Trek movies in some capacity, but bar the campfire scene The Final Frontier is an absolute turd.
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Old August 14 2013, 02:11 PM   #43
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http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/star-trek...073112668.html

the most awkward moment is when I see this list on yahoo main stream news, the whole world now believes this is what trek fans think when it is not really the case....My sister just said this list was plain stupid and she is a bigger trek fan than I am.

I know JJ has intense haters but This is too much.

poor man...am sure seeing how much people are voicing their hatred for this film he wont even consider been a producer for trek 3 talk less of been the director.

I would let rotten tomatoes do the talking.

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Old August 14 2013, 02:41 PM   #44
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My question is: Who the heck goes to CreationCons anymore. . .those are sooooooo 1990s. . . and they really weren't that great, even then. . .


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Old August 14 2013, 02:50 PM   #45
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It was a poll of one hundred fans at a convention and they included Galaxy Quest. Of course, being somewhat embarrasing it's been spammed across the internet by sites like Trekweb.com.


I've started a poll in General Trek, so we can see if TrekBBS members reflect their results. So far, they don't.
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