RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,608
Posts: 5,425,641
Members: 24,807
Currently online: 602
Newest member: Dixonn

TrekToday headlines

IDW Publishing December Trek Comics
By: T'Bonz on Sep 17

September Loot Crate Features Trek Surprise
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

USS Enterprise Miniature Out For Refit
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Star Trek/Planet of the Apes Comic Crossover
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Trek 3 Shooting Next Spring?
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Star Trek: Alien Domain Game Announced
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Red Shirt Diaries Episode Three
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Made Out Of Mudd Photonovel
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Takei Has Growth Removed
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Retro Review: Tears of the Prophets
By: Michelle on Sep 12


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Future of Trek

Future of Trek Discussion of future Trek projects.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 31 2013, 06:16 PM   #16
Sindatur
Vice Admiral
 
Sindatur's Avatar
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
Re: How are fan productions legal?

Data's Cat wrote: View Post
J. Allen wrote: View Post
Plus, we all remember, way back in the ancient 1990s, when Paramount went on a rampage shutting down any website or production that even mentioned Star Trek.
That reminds me of something that happened some years back. One of the companies- I think Disney? - was contacting websites and forums about using their copyrighted images. They didn't even want people using their characters as avatars.

Apparently that fizzled out. People still use copyrighted images for avatars and memes and nobody gets in trouble.
Yea, the Internet got too big for them to be able to Micromanage their Copyright to the level of going after folks using an image of a character(s) as an Avatar. I guess back when the Online world was smaller, it made sense to try and nip every little infringement in the bud before it led to folks believing the Copyright holder was lax about their rights, now, though, there's just way too much content to go after something of that small a level.
__________________
One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am

Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?
Sindatur is online now   Reply With Quote
Old July 31 2013, 08:02 PM   #17
Ryan8bit
Commodore
 
Ryan8bit's Avatar
 
Location: St. Paul, MN
Re: How are fan productions legal?

J. Allen wrote: View Post
For example, in the My Little Pony community, Hasbro has, on occasion, stepped on fan productions. There was a very well made game being produced by a small group of programmers called "Fighting is Magic," that had garnered a lot of attention, and right before it was released to the public as a free game, Hasbro stepped in and issued a C&D.
I've seen that happen with several games. I think that the game market is just way more fickle about that kind of thing, possibly because it's not that hard for a few people to put their heads together and create something like Angry Birds or Candy Crush. But with fan films there is so much more cost and effort involved to get something that even remotely approaches the TV/film productions. Perhaps as the technology improves further and if Star Trek ever puts a TV show back on the air, then there might be some consideration, but until then there's not really any reason for them to be concerned.
Ryan8bit is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 1 2013, 06:08 AM   #18
Tiberius
Commodore
 
Re: How are fan productions legal?

dansigal wrote: View Post
Tiberius wrote: View Post
Didn't I hear a rumour a little while back that it may be possible to get fan fiction up on sites like Amazon or something? How would this change things?
More than a rumor, this is something Amazon is doing. But they are only doing it with specific franchises from which they have specific permissions from the copyright holders. Right now its limited to a handful.
Which franchises are they?
Tiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 1 2013, 09:48 AM   #19
chardman
Vice Admiral
 
chardman's Avatar
 
Location: The home of GenCon
View chardman's Twitter Profile
Re: How are fan productions legal?

J. Allen wrote: View Post
It likely depends upon the copyright holder and how they choose to enforce their copyright. It can get sticky, too, as it's not so much publicity as it is keeping one's intellectual property under their own control. If you just let any Tom, Dick, or Data do what they want with the brand, that's a quick way to lose control over one's property.

For example, in the My Little Pony community, Hasbro has, on occasion, stepped on fan productions. There was a very well made game being produced by a small group of programmers called "Fighting is Magic," that had garnered a lot of attention, and right before it was released to the public as a free game, Hasbro stepped in and issued a C&D.

I'm of the opinion that as long as it doesn't garner too large an audience, most copyright holders can pretend that nothing is happening, but if the production gains a lot of attention, then the copyright holder is forced to crack down on it, or else lose their copyright hold on the property.

Plus, we all remember, way back in the ancient 1990s, when Paramount went on a rampage shutting down any website or production that even mentioned Star Trek.

Just my two bits.
Close, but no cigar.

A copyright holder can be as lax or stringent as they want with their copyrights, and the validity of said copyright will remain utterly unchanged. They can be totally fickle, suing one copyright violator while tolerating (or even encouraging) others. Failure to defend one's copyright does NOT result in the loss of copyright. Ever.

Trademarks, on the other hand, must be rigorously enforced and defended lest they become invalid.
__________________
If Ronald Reagan hadn't cut Mental Health funding to the bone, most of today's GOP & Tea Party candidates wouldn't be walking around loose.
chardman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 1 2013, 03:03 PM   #20
dansigal
Commander
 
Re: How are fan productions legal?

Tiberius wrote: View Post
dansigal wrote: View Post
Tiberius wrote: View Post
Didn't I hear a rumour a little while back that it may be possible to get fan fiction up on sites like Amazon or something? How would this change things?
More than a rumor, this is something Amazon is doing. But they are only doing it with specific franchises from which they have specific permissions from the copyright holders. Right now its limited to a handful.
Which franchises are they?
Here is the link to the Amazon site. http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1001197421
dansigal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 3 2013, 12:53 AM   #21
Therin of Andor
Admiral
 
Therin of Andor's Avatar
 
Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
View Therin of Andor's Twitter Profile
Re: How are fan productions legal?

Gojira wrote: View Post
I have the Of Gods and Men DVD that I got for free so I think Paramount is alright if things get distributed as long as it is free.
I have a free one, too, but I had to buy an 8x10 cast photo from their online shop to get the "free" DVD.
__________________
Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion)
The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/
Therin of Andor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 12 2013, 09:40 PM   #22
peteym5
Lieutenant
 
Re: How are fan productions legal?

The producers of these fan made production do it with permission of CBS / Paramount under the condition it is not done for profit. Can ask for donations or limited advertising to cover production costs. These productions are not going to make enough profit to worry the studios.
peteym5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.