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Old August 12 2013, 03:49 PM   #16
Re: No real match for Enterprise refit/Ent-A in the TOS movies?

In the real world, a fight between two equal adversaries would be almost unheard of. Surely both sides would want to engage only from a position of strength?

Out of the Trek films, ST2:TWoK already dealt with the rare scenario where clever commanding settles an even match. ST:TMP and ST4:TVH show how an uneven battle can be won by the underdog, again going for the realistic approach, namely not agreeing to fight. ST:GEN is a fun exercise in how the top dog can lose, and overall enjoyable since heroes seldom are allowed to be defeated. ST3:TSfS shows two masters of bluff playing a merciless game with laughably weak hands, focusing the attention from the hardware to the people involved. That's plenty of nice diversity there...

...Meaning I wouldn't really have minded a rematch with even ships, even though it has already been done. It's true that Kirk has never faced an alien foe that was evenly matched - essentially, a Klingon battle cruiser that doesn't get in a sucker punch or a saboteur or some other dirty trick first - in an open fight, but it shouldn't be too difficult to think of a plot where he's forced to do such a tactically inadvisable thing.

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Old August 29 2013, 12:53 AM   #17
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Re: No real match for Enterprise refit/Ent-A in the TOS movies?

In TWOK, Reliant and Enterprise are evenly matched. They are both weakened viscerally, approximately the same way, and set to claw at each other with limited resources, including the intellects of their respective commanders.

Give me that any day over phasers bouncing off shields.
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