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Old August 10 2013, 07:10 PM   #91
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Actually, the Maquis would be just the sort to be prepared to flee at a moment's notice - they know they are being hunted, after all.
Just like every member of Al Qaeda has their own personal helicopter to flee at a moment's notice? They know they are being hunted, after all.
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Old August 10 2013, 09:53 PM   #92
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Personal pickup truck is more like it. Spacecraft in the Trek universe are dirt cheap, it seems... Indeed, we see far more personal spacecraft than personal ground vehicles!

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Old August 10 2013, 10:30 PM   #93
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Then why did Chakotay have 40 or so people crammed into that one little raider?
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Old August 11 2013, 09:44 AM   #94
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Then why did Chakotay have 40 or so people crammed into that one little raider?
I think it was supposed to be "relatively" big in Caretaker, they seemed to deliberately keep it vague in order to invent Maquis as the series went along.

Trek ships are always excessively roomy, even at 160m the Defiant is significantly larger than any modern day submarine, and has a small crew of 50-or-so. They would be quite comfortable!

Of course this pales in comparison with the Ent-D, even if you swallow the "35% empty" figure from the tech manual, with only 1000 crew on such a massive ship, you could walk around some parts of the ship all day and not see anyone!
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Old August 11 2013, 11:21 AM   #95
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Then why did Chakotay have 40 or so people crammed into that one little raider?
Why, to evacuate them at a moment's notice, of course!

"Caretaker" is a good example of how little it takes to move a thousand people from harm's way. Another is "Blaze of Glory", where Eddington feels a single runabout would be sufficient to evacuate a contingent of DMZ settlers cum Maquis. Not all that unrealistic an idea, considering how in "The Homecoming", sixty people could be carried aboard that 23-meter craft.

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Old August 12 2013, 03:32 AM   #96
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Then why did Chakotay have 40 or so people crammed into that one little raider?
I've never thought about this before, but an Intrepid class starship has about 150 people in it, but if Chakotay's raider had 40 people in it, then shouldn't the USS Voyager's crew count have been about 190.
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Old August 12 2013, 04:29 AM   #97
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Then why did Chakotay have 40 or so people crammed into that one little raider?
I've never thought about this before, but an Intrepid class starship has about 150 people in it, but if Chakotay's raider had 40 people in it, then shouldn't the USS Voyager's crew count have been about 190.
A lot of the original crew died in the pilot. Conveniently approximately the same number of Chakotay's people survived.
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Regarding the artificial quantum singularity power source, complexity doesn't necessarily imply superiority - quite the opposite might be the case.

If you create fuel for your cars with the Fischer-Tropsch method, that's "advanced" and "complex" but establishes your nation as a pariah state lacking in natural resources. If you use wood gasifiers, you're toying with even more complex technologies (and risking your life every time you take a ride), but that's because you don't have oil wells.

Romulus might have been forced to develop AQS systems early on because the peace treaty left it with a fixed territory devoid of natural dilithium resources. Indeed, perhaps there never were any dilithium-powered starships in the Romulan Star Empire, and that's why Scotty was fooled into thinking that the Romulan plasma mortar vessel would lack warp capacity altogether (when all it had was an inferior if advanced and difficult-to-identify powerplant).

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Excellent point that I overlooked - it does indeed seem to be a finnicky system, but that need not be due to superiority. Perhaps the Federation abandoned all efforts into AQS technology long ago because dilithium was so abundant.
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Old December 15 2013, 06:23 AM   #99
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If only it wasn't too late to add a poll so we could all see the overall opinion on the matter...
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