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Old August 9 2013, 10:57 PM   #196
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Re: The Single Worst Line of Dialogue in the entire Star Trek Franchis

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And I love that movie.
Well, dude, you read my mind. Not only is it out of character, but it's out of place. A better line would have been for him to be silently shaking with anger, if he had to be that emotional at all. It was a great tear-jerking scene until this happened.
This too. And I liked that movie. It just seemed... unneccessary.
I agree. The second time I watched STID, I stuck my fingers in my ears during that scene. And so did the dozen or so people in front of me. And we were the only ones in the auditorium.
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Old August 10 2013, 05:12 AM   #197
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Fan service should not come after an emotional death scene.
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Old August 10 2013, 07:59 AM   #198
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"Nothing in the universe can go Warp 10" - You know where it's from.

I know Brannon Braga wasn't a TOS fan, but someone should have told him that there's well over 10 episodes where the Enterprise goes over warp 10. In "Wink of an Eye" they went to 14.4!!!!!!!
Hell, in the Filmation series they went 36!

P.S. I am aware of the change in the Warp scale, but my point still stands.
If you knew all this then you also know that Gene Roddenberry came up with the reformatted warp scale. Braga is not at fault here and the line makes sense in context of the new scale so I am not sure how your point stands at all?
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Old August 10 2013, 02:25 PM   #199
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How did it go? "Warp flight, no left or right"?
Bullshit. It's like whoever wrote that had never seen a single episode of any of the series.
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Old August 10 2013, 05:52 PM   #200
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"Nothing in the universe can go Warp 10" - You know where it's from.

I know Brannon Braga wasn't a TOS fan, but someone should have told him that there's well over 10 episodes where the Enterprise goes over warp 10. In "Wink of an Eye" they went to 14.4!!!!!!!
Hell, in the Filmation series they went 36!

P.S. I am aware of the change in the Warp scale, but my point still stands.
If you knew all this then you also know that Gene Roddenberry came up with the reformatted warp scale. Braga is not at fault here and the line makes sense in context of the new scale so I am not sure how your point stands at all?
Yet said new scale has never been alluded to in canon, and so-called "official" warp scales in the manuals have never ever matched whats in the shows anyway - according to "By Any Other Name", the old Enterprise would have made Voyager's "75 years at warp 9.975" journey in a month at warp 8.4.
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Old August 10 2013, 06:13 PM   #201
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Fan service should not come after an emotional death scene.
Why should they take it seriously? It was handwaved away twenty minutes later.
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Old August 10 2013, 07:31 PM   #202
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^And with an extremely telegraphed setup for the cure. Khan's Claire blood was the proverbial gun in the room waiting to be fired.
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Old August 10 2013, 07:34 PM   #203
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Western Union couldn't have telegraphed it better.
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Old August 11 2013, 01:19 AM   #204
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"Captain, it doesn't even look real" - Operation Anihilate!
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Old August 11 2013, 03:45 AM   #205
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Re: The Single Worst Line of Dialogue in the entire Star Trek Franchis

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
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CaptainBearclaw wrote: View Post
"Nothing in the universe can go Warp 10" - You know where it's from.

I know Brannon Braga wasn't a TOS fan, but someone should have told him that there's well over 10 episodes where the Enterprise goes over warp 10. In "Wink of an Eye" they went to 14.4!!!!!!!
Hell, in the Filmation series they went 36!

P.S. I am aware of the change in the Warp scale, but my point still stands.
If you knew all this then you also know that Gene Roddenberry came up with the reformatted warp scale. Braga is not at fault here and the line makes sense in context of the new scale so I am not sure how your point stands at all?
Yet said new scale has never been alluded to in canon, and so-called "official" warp scales in the manuals have never ever matched whats in the shows anyway - according to "By Any Other Name", the old Enterprise would have made Voyager's "75 years at warp 9.975" journey in a month at warp 8.4.
They implied it in "All Good Things" when they had the USS Pasteur go to Warp 13.

And let's face it, in TOS everything went at the speed of plot. It wasn't until Voyager that NOT being able to go anywhere fast became a necessity.
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Old August 11 2013, 10:35 AM   #206
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How was it implied unless you've read technical manuals? During TNG they max out at warp 9-point-something, passing warp 10 once in "Where No One Has Gone Before". In AGT they go to warp 13 which isn't treated like a big deal at all - it's just four warp factors faster than they could go 25 years earlier.

Agreed that it was Voyager that made a Trekking across the galaxy a lifelong journey. That's the only time those warp scales have been taken seriously. DS9 made the "long way" trip to the other end of the wormhole a lifelong journey too, but they merrily hopped from DS9 to Bajor, Earth, Romulus, Kronos, Cardassia and others all in the space of a scene break, and often by Runabout!

Missed this one:
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"Thrusters on full."
Although a little weird, I figure it's a STIV reference - "He's not exactly working on all thrusters!"

This new young crew very much is.
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Old August 12 2013, 04:17 PM   #207
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How did it go? "Warp flight, no left or right"?
Bullshit. It's like whoever wrote that had never seen a single episode of any of the series.
"Faster than light, no left or right."

Well, it was in "Fury."
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Old August 12 2013, 10:49 PM   #208
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From STID:
Kirk: " Bones. What are you doing with that dead tribble?"

McCoy: " Dammit Jim. I'm starving."
Should have been his answer.
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Old August 13 2013, 02:13 AM   #209
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From STID:
Kirk: " Bones. What are you doing with that dead tribble?"

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McCoy: "Wait for the book. I'm only on number 52."
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Old August 13 2013, 03:57 AM   #210
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In TNG except for Where No Man and All Good things warp 10 was always treated like a hard limit even though it was never directly alluded to. Whenever the Enterprise was supposed to be going 'really super duper fast' it went to 9.8...then 9.9...then 9.91... it was obvious the writers were under instruction to make 10 the hard limit. In Where No Man Has Gone Before they had not established the warp scale yet and in All Good Things they only threw out warp 13 to show how much more futury the future had become in a few decades.

Threshold is a terrible episode but making warp 10 the hard limit is not one of its faults.
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