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Old August 10 2013, 03:01 AM   #76
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As an aside, I think there are just too many stupid people nowadays who wouldn't be able to recognize an alternate history series as alternate history. Sort of like my then 40-year-old nephew who thought Oliver Stone's JFK was truth.
Odd in my world director Jack Kennedy made a film about President Oliver Stone.
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Old August 10 2013, 03:47 AM   #77
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This was never an actual TV series but it was one I created a few years ago when I was in a fantasy network programming game where we had to create a series and write episodes and ratings were determined by voters. I posted a few synopsis here for voters and was encouraged to on the board to make a real pitch to a network or at least turn it into a graphic novel.
I did wind up writing the graphic novel and if I ever get motivated again I will resume pitching it to a graphic novel publisher.

In short DIVERGENT POINT dealt with the idea of what if the history we live is actually THE ALTERNATE HISTORY...that a time travel experiment gone horribly wrong resulted in the crazy messy world we live in where the US actually used Atomic Bombs in WW2-MLK gets gunned down in '68 instead of becoming president in 1976...that sort of thing. And how can it be made right again.

I still have a few copies up on Wordpress if anyone who digs alternate history wants to read more about it, see some of the pages or even pick one up it can be found below.
http://divergentpointgraphicnovel.wordpress.com/


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Old August 10 2013, 03:51 AM   #78
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Kennedy used to do a great impression of Vaughn Meader, but stopped out of respect after Meader's death.
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Old August 10 2013, 04:14 AM   #79
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That movie with what's-his-name...the one where they totally parodied Galaxy Quest was hysterical. Can you imagine some show called "Star Trek" in real life?

In other news, we really need a salary cap in baseball. The Cubbies are just too much of a power house. I'm tired of them winning the series every year.

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Old August 10 2013, 04:25 AM   #80
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I loved the new Trek film. Matt Damon as Kirk. Ben Affleck as Spock. Gary Sinise as McCoy. perfect casting. Grinned at the nod to The Counter Clock Incident that places the film right after the last episode of TAS.
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Old August 10 2013, 05:11 AM   #81
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The New Trek film was awesome, but I'm starting to worry they're oversaturating the market. Right after Enterprise ended in 2008, they immediately launched the 25th century series where they make contact with other galaxies and have to deal with races that aren't humanoid and are completely unlike them. Star Trek: Titan was still on the air! So Star Trek: Titan ends, they immediately announce that new series where Worf was captain AND announce a new throwback film. At this rate people are going to get tired of Trek. If they immediately launched a fourth Star Trek series after TNG ended people would have gotten tired of it ages ago.

And I would have honestly rather seen another DS9 film to conclude the 'Sisko Reborn' arc.

I hear the Borg are going to factor into the new series. We haven't heard from them since TNG, I can't WAIT to see more of them.
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Old August 10 2013, 05:37 AM   #82
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That movie with what's-his-name...the one where they totally parodied Galaxy Quest was hysterical. Can you imagine some show called "Star Trek" in real life?
There was that little-known Desilu show Star Trek, about a group of Hollywood entertainers on a USO tour during World War II. It only lasted one season and hasn't had a home video release because of multiple issues with music clearances.
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Old August 10 2013, 05:42 AM   #83
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That movie with what's-his-name...the one where they totally parodied Galaxy Quest was hysterical. Can you imagine some show called "Star Trek" in real life?
There was that little-known Desilu show Star Trek, about a group of Hollywood entertainers on a USO tour during World War II. It only lasted one season and hasn't had a home video release because of multiple issues with music clearances.
It did launch Nichelle Nichols singing career. She could paper a wall with all those gold records.
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Old August 10 2013, 12:08 PM   #84
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Remember that cult favorite French show, Le étoile voyage? It ran for six seasons, with Maurice Chevalier as Le capitan Bayonette and Juliette Binoche as La première choisse. Some guy named Leonard Nimoy was brought in after a while to provide comic relief with his drag impressions and numerous drug references.
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Old August 10 2013, 01:31 PM   #85
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I have to say the biggest mind blowing season finale was at the end of Firefly's 9th season. After years of fighting against the Alliance, Mal Reynolds is killed by Alliance deep cover agent River Tam.

Then the body glows, and Nathan Fillion changes into Charlie Sheen and is alive again. He just stood up and said "Call me the Captain.'

They called it a 'regeneration' in the season 10 premier. My friends as I were talking about that all summer long.
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Old August 10 2013, 03:23 PM   #86
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Zipang, basic idea from The Final Countdown, but with a modern Japanese destroyer that's thrown back in time into WW2.

Sadly, the anime covers only a fraction of the manga storyline.

Alternate history is actually not such a rare setting in Japanese entertainment, like Code Geass, the Kerberos Saga (not a show but actually a whole franchise of movies, books, audio dramas and other installments), Full Metal Panic (another franchise across different media),

As for US content, not sure if Otherworld, Alien Nation and Amerika were already mentioned.
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Old August 10 2013, 07:04 PM   #87
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I have to say the biggest mind blowing season finale was at the end of Firefly's 9th season. After years of fighting against the Alliance, Mal Reynolds is killed by Alliance deep cover agent River Tam.

Then the body glows, and Nathan Fillion changes into Charlie Sheen and is alive again. He just stood up and said "Call me the Captain.'

They called it a 'regeneration' in the season 10 premier. My friends as I were talking about that all summer long.
I only hope they manage to close the series out as satisfyingly as they did Battlestar Galactica. I was worried they'd pull some lame 'God did everything' thing, but they really managed to tie up everything perfectly. It was almost as good as Lost's ending. Hopefully Firefly's series finale will live up to the same standards.
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Old August 10 2013, 07:09 PM   #88
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It was almost as good as Lost's ending.
I still feel it cheapened the whole thing when we found out that it's the same place as in Fantasy Island, just decades after its abandonment.
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Old August 10 2013, 07:30 PM   #89
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Gotta say when Lee and Kirby went over to DC they really changed comics. They took the Challengers of the Unknown and revamped them into super heroes, but a different style of hero that DC had at the time. Prof became Mr. Elastic, Rocky became The Thing, Red became the Human Torch, and June became the Invisible Girl. Having Ace seemingly die in the accident that gave them their powers, only to return as their greatest foe was a brilliant move.
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Old August 10 2013, 11:51 PM   #90
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I've been thinking about what Nerys said about MASH. I'm actually not surprised it didn't last as long as the real WWII. Expecting any tv series to last 9 years without becoming stale is really asking a lot. I mean, look at The Rifleman. It lasted so long that Miss Kitty went from a hot love interest into an old maid aunt. Along the way, they must have told the same stories a dozen times over. If it weren't for all of the Luddites in California the show would have been yanked after 5 years, tops, instead of lasting 22.
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