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Old August 9 2013, 02:57 PM   #31
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Re: Carol Marcus' British accent

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A lot of time passed between when Kirk and Carol met and when we saw her in TWOK. It's entirely possible she did have an English accent when they met and that it changed over the subsequent 20 years to a more American-sounding accent. People's accents change all the time.
Oh come on. Better not explain it at all than explain it like that.
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Old August 9 2013, 04:48 PM   #32
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A lot of time passed between when Kirk and Carol met and when we saw her in TWOK. It's entirely possible she did have an English accent when they met and that it changed over the subsequent 20 years to a more American-sounding accent. People's accents change all the time.
Oh come on. Better not explain it at all than explain it like that.
Linda McCartney had this odd British accent after living there for many years.
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Old August 9 2013, 07:49 PM   #33
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^And conversely, Marina Sirtis's normal speaking accent today, after living in the States for decades, is more American than English, though it's sort of an odd blend of the two.
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Old August 9 2013, 08:11 PM   #34
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Though with accents the spectrum can range from no change at all to a total change or anywhere inbetween.
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Old August 9 2013, 08:13 PM   #35
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Crazy idea. What if the alternate Carol Marcus has a different mother?

If Admiral Marcus wasn't involved in Section 31 in the original timeline, or simply if Section 31 didn't have a large presence in London, since the Kelvin Memorial Archive mightn't exist in an unaltered timeline anyway, perhaps he met and married a different, British woman due to visiting London more often. It's never explicitly said when Carol was born, and indeed if anything she seems younger than Kirk.

So, the alternate Carol might be really alternate.
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Old August 9 2013, 08:29 PM   #36
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Re: Carol Marcus' British accent

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A lot of time passed between when Kirk and Carol met and when we saw her in TWOK. It's entirely possible she did have an English accent when they met and that it changed over the subsequent 20 years to a more American-sounding accent. People's accents change all the time.
Oh come on. Better not explain it at all than explain it like that.
Huh?

It's a totally normal thing that happens to lots of people, especially if they live in different places.
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Old August 9 2013, 09:05 PM   #37
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It's never explicitly said when Carol was born, and indeed if anything she seems younger than Kirk.
Alice Eve is a year and a half younger than Chris Pine -- whereas Bibi Besch was nine years younger than William Shatner.

On the other hand, Kirk's supposed to be 26 at the time of the film, making him six years younger than Pine is at this point (since four years elapsed between films in real life but less than one year in-story). So there's really no telling how close the characters are supposed to be in age.
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Old August 9 2013, 09:50 PM   #38
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The real-world reason is that, although the filmmakers tested Eve with an American accent, they decided to go with her natural accent because they felt it helped sell her as a scientist. To Americans, English accent = smart.
That is so sad.

Did Americans become dumber between the 1980s and 2010s?
Considerably.

But, this thread is about Carol Marcus, so let's stick with that.
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Old August 10 2013, 12:32 PM   #39
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Or it could to prevent any anti English accusations as Khan now had an English accent?
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Old August 10 2013, 12:36 PM   #40
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The real-world reason is that, although the filmmakers tested Eve with an American accent, they decided to go with her natural accent because they felt it helped sell her as a scientist. To Americans, English accent = smart.
That is so sad.

Did Americans become dumber between the 1980s and 2010s?
Considerably.

But, this thread is about Carol Marcus, so let's stick with that.
That comment was 5 days and 31 posts ago and it was mostly ignored. It's ironic that by bringing it up again to say it should not derail the thread, you allow it to potentially derail the thread.
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Old August 10 2013, 01:19 PM   #41
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Alice Eve as a compainion of the Doctor could work.
Given her dad's feelings toward Doctor Who, it might be a bit of a sticking point.
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Old August 10 2013, 03:44 PM   #42
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Alice Eve as a compainion of the Doctor could work.
Given her dad's feelings toward Doctor Who, it might be a bit of a sticking point.
OK, I didn't know she's Trevor "Shoestring" Eve's daughter! I hadn't put that together at all!
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Old August 11 2013, 05:45 PM   #43
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OK, I didn't know she's Trevor "Shoestring" Eve's daughter! I hadn't put that together at all!
Trevor Eve and Sharon "Gold Blend" Maughn, yeah. Took me a while too!
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