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Old August 9 2013, 10:18 AM   #46
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Remember all the excitement when Gilligan's Island won 5 Emmys?

Naaah, forget it. That's too crazy even for an alternate universe.
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Old August 9 2013, 01:46 PM   #47
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I loved that series 'Miami'. Crazy multiple storylines crossing back and forth. I liked the Michael Westen/Dexter Morgan episodes, and the season where Horatio Caine was going up against Dominic Toretto and Frank Martin. Car chases, transporting, smuggling, it had it all. And Caine versus Westen, well...
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Old August 9 2013, 03:03 PM   #48
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I loved that series 'Miami'. Crazy multiple storylines crossing back and forth. I liked the Michael Westen/Dexter Morgan episodes, and the season where Horatio Caine was going up against Dominic Toretto and Frank Martin. Car chases, transporting, smuggling, it had it all. And Caine versus Westen, well...
I though the arc focused on the two vice cops was pretty weak. Though them busting Blanche Devereaux for solicitation was a highlight.
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Old August 9 2013, 04:53 PM   #49
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Yep, Tom Hanks never really made it anywhere after 9 seasons of Bosom Buddies.
Aw, c'mon. You've at least got to give Hanks some credit for A Kind of Homecoming. Sure it was a low-budget indie flick, but his portrayal of Michael Collins bringing Apollo 11 home alone after the deaths of Armstrong and Aldrin is simply beautiful. For most of the film, he is the only person seen on-screen. In a fair universe, he would have won or at least have been nominated for an Oscar. Even the real Michael Collins broke over thirty years of being a recluse to comment positively on the film.
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Old August 9 2013, 05:28 PM   #50
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It was a shame that William Hartnell got sick so early into Doctor Who's short-lived run. This cult British show about an elderly traveller had potential. I wonder why they didn't just recast the role rather than cancel it?
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Old August 9 2013, 05:35 PM   #51
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They tried to do this show Kings that was about if modern America was a monarchy.

Unfortunately, it was soapy and awful, but it was a really cool idea for an AH premise.
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Old August 9 2013, 06:27 PM   #52
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It was a shame that William Hartnell got sick so early into Doctor Who's short-lived run. This cult British show about an elderly traveller had potential. I wonder why they didn't just recast the role rather than cancel it?
From what I read, they tried, but they just couldn't find anyone who looked AND sounded enough likr Hartnell to their satisfaction.

Now, here's the really crazy thing. There's argument between fan historians whether or not this really happened. But, supposedly, they considered hiring an actor who purposely would NOT resemble Hartnell. I know; I know, insane, right? The idea was that the Doctor would have returned to his red phone booth at the end of "The Tenth Planet", the one with the cybernetic Borg. He would have collapsed and and as his companions watched in amazement, Hartnell would have literally turned into a different person! No, I don't mean simply grow younger. I mean his height, hair color and bone and muscle structure of his face would have looked different! Really! I can only assume with that much changed, they would have taken it to the next level and had him behave differently! And his companions would notice this! The writers would not have simply swept the changes under the carpet to be ignored!

Yeah, I have my doubts this really happened, too. Strange thing, though. Remember the priest in "The Omen", the one who nearly got impaled by that spire struck by lightning? The one who helped Rock Hudson destroy the demon child. In an interview recorded during the making of that film, this Pat Troughton briefly mentioned something about a BBC casting call, one he attended in 1966. He didn't go into details, but said something about it being a time travel series. Do you think he might have been talking about "Doctor Who"? Could he have been the one considered as Hartnell's replacement? Nah, I don't buy it, either. He was probably considered for a guest role before production abruptly halted. Still, what a thought!

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Old August 9 2013, 06:53 PM   #53
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Yep, Tom Hanks never really made it anywhere after 9 seasons of Bosom Buddies.
Aw, c'mon. You've at least got to give Hanks some credit for A Kind of Homecoming. Sure it was a low-budget indie flick, but his portrayal of Michael Collins bringing Apollo 11 home alone after the deaths of Armstrong and Aldrin is simply beautiful. For most of the film, he is the only person seen on-screen. In a fair universe, he would have won or at least have been nominated for an Oscar. Even the real Michael Collins broke over thirty years of being a recluse to comment positively on the film.
I think A Kind of Homecoming got ignored because of the truly weak depiction of the Eagle lander's crash. Since it was practically the opening scene, I believe it biased reviewers so much they couldn't see the awesomeness of Hank's performance. It's kind of like a mirror image of what happened to Harrison Ford in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Ford's portrayal of Roy Neary is subtle and very nuanced but the opening scenes of the alien spacecraft were so spectacular and mind-blowing that Ford's great performance was more or less overlooked. Of course, an argument could be made that the Academy just doesn't treat scifi seriously no matter how well its done. Look at Kubrick's 2001. You have a master director making a movie based on a Hugo-winning story, with the original author working daily side by side with the script adapters and the movie crushes the box office- and the only awards were Best Makeup and Best special effects. I think that slight is why, after the Methuselah's Children/2001 adaptation, Robert Heinlein refused to allow any more of his stories to be brought to the big screen.
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Old August 9 2013, 07:03 PM   #54
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I'm surprised no one brought up the parallel world in Fringe where the West Wing is still on the air among other oddities from that world (Like alternate DC comics and Eric Stoltz starring in Back To The Future).
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Old August 9 2013, 07:19 PM   #55
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My favorite Arnold Schwarzenegger film has to be Stanley Kubrick's Superman (1978). His American accent was flawless, and he was the best Clark Kent I'd ever seen.
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Old August 9 2013, 07:40 PM   #56
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DC Comics keeps trying to get a Batman movie made to add to it's continuing string of Aquaman movies. The Batman, what a second string character.
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Old August 9 2013, 07:42 PM   #57
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I wept when, after 20 seasons, Family Affair finally went off the air. Benedict Cumberbatch was an amazing Mr. French, with Catherine Zeta-Jones as Cissy, River Phoenix as Jody, and Kaley Cuoco as Buffy. Colm Meaney deserved all of his Emmys as Uncle Bill.
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Old August 9 2013, 07:44 PM   #58
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we all know how Gotham ran for 10 seasons, before young Bruce Wayne donned the cape and cowl in the finale. But what if the producers had instead made a show about a young Clark Kent? Would this have meant that Superman Returns was less successful at the box office, just like many people blame Gotham for the underwhelming response to Batman Begins and its failure to land a sequel?
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Old August 9 2013, 09:04 PM   #59
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Still, one of the funniest shows to date was the 2 episode cross over of M.A.S.H. and Hogan's Heroes.

Sgt. Holtz: "Nothing. I see nothing!"
Radar: "It's ok sir. Klinger always dresses like that"

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Old August 9 2013, 09:11 PM   #60
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Still, one of the funniest shows to date was the 2 episode cross over of M.A.S.H. and Hogan's Heroes.

Sgt. Holtz: "Nothing. I see nothing!"
Radar: "It's ok sir. Klinger always dresses like that"

Weird that M*A*S*H didn't last as long as World War II. Speaking of the war. Anyone buy the crazy theory that Truman could have stopped the war in '45 by dropping ( I kid you not) an ATOMIC bomb on Japan!!!!! That would make for a good SF story.
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