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Old August 6 2013, 03:09 AM   #16
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Re: Carol Marcus' British accent

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The real-world reason is that, although the filmmakers tested Eve with an American accent, they decided to go with her natural accent because they felt it helped sell her as a scientist. To Americans, English accent = smart.
That is so sad.

Did Americans become dumber between the 1980s and 2010s?
This has been the case since well before the 1980s. In film certain accents equal "scientist". British English (of a certain type) and German are two of them.
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Old August 6 2013, 03:26 AM   #17
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The real reason is because Khan was english they had to have an english person on the goodies side too
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Old August 6 2013, 03:59 AM   #18
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After all Kirk was born in Iowa in the Prime universe
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Old August 6 2013, 04:08 AM   #19
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Not necessarily false, just not specified beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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Old August 6 2013, 10:43 AM   #20
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Kirk Prime was "from Iowa," but that doesn't necessarily mean he was born there, just that he mostly lived there. The interpretation that he was born there comes mainly from the city of Riverside's decision to declare themselves Kirk's future birthplace as a draw for tourists. Which the new movie acknowledged by making Kirk a resident of Riverside, but which is not part of the canon.
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Old August 6 2013, 10:50 AM   #21
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I imagine the people of Riverside, Iowa were somewhat miffed that nuKirk was born in space, and in the year 2233 as opposed to the 2228 their monument claims.
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Old August 6 2013, 11:18 AM   #22
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^The 2233 date comes from The Star Trek Chronology, which picks a 2267 date for "The Deadly Years," in which Kirk gave his age as 34. It's hardly new information.
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Old August 6 2013, 11:33 AM   #23
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^True, but STXI was the first time it made it to the screen (illegible screen graphics aside)
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Old August 8 2013, 04:07 AM   #24
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In STID, Carol said that her father raised her, but (assuming he worked out of Section 31's London office for a fair whack of time), it could still fit.
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Old August 8 2013, 12:49 PM   #25
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Did Americans become dumber between the 1980s and 2010s?
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Old August 8 2013, 06:58 PM   #26
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Did Americans become dumber between the 1980s and 2010s?
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Well, you had to know what was going to happen when you posted that. Comments to PM.
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Old August 9 2013, 11:57 AM   #27
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A lot of time passed between when Kirk and Carol met and when we saw her in TWOK. It's entirely possible she did have an English accent when they met and that it changed over the subsequent 20 years to a more American-sounding accent. People's accents change all the time.
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Old August 9 2013, 12:48 PM   #28
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To Americans, English accent = smart.
And to me, her accent is damn sexy!
She also has her "everything else" which is also sexy!
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Old August 9 2013, 02:08 PM   #29
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This is Star Trek, so she's French.
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Old August 9 2013, 02:34 PM   #30
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A lot of time passed between when Kirk and Carol met and when we saw her in TWOK. It's entirely possible she did have an English accent when they met and that it changed over the subsequent 20 years to a more American-sounding accent. People's accents change all the time.
Bibi Besch, the original Carol was born in Austria and spent the first six years of her life there. No doubt she had a Austrian accent at one time.
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