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Old August 7 2013, 05:15 PM   #31
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Re: NX Ranks and crew occupations

Here's the crew manning scheme I came up with for a Starfleet vessel of a similar size to the NX-01. Now, this was set in the late TOS-Movie era, and assums a bit more automation than we see with NX-01 (i.e. no chef, the food comes from the wall-slots, etc.). Anyway, I think this could be modified to suit the needs of the OP quite easily, and anyone inclined should feel free to do so.

I hope this is helpful.


This is my proposal for the manning on an Akula sub-class PA as described in “Ships of the Star Fleet Volume Two”. That book describes a crew composition of 7 officers and 68 enlisted personnel. I have further broken down the enlisted crew to consist of 1 SCPO, 3 CPOs, 28 Pos, and 36 junior enlisted personnel. The book also describes the CO of a PA as being a Lieutenant commander (O-4) or a senior Lieutenant (O-3). Enlisted grades are as follows:

SCPO = E-8
CPO = E-7
PO = grades E-4 through E-6
Junior enlisted are grades E-1 through E-3.

Commanding Officer (Lcdr. Or Lt.)
Executive/Strategic Officer (Lt.) [see Note 1]
Navigation Officer (Ens. Or Lt(jg).)
Coxswain (SCPO) [Note 2]
Flight Controllers (x5) (all PO) [Note 3]
Yeoman (junior enlisted)

Chief Engineer (Lt(jg). Or Lt.)
Warp Propulsion Specialists (x3) (1 CPO, 2 PO)
Impulse Propulsion Specialist (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl)
Power Distribution Specialists (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl)
Computer/Auxiliary Systems Spec. (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl) [Note 4]
Transporter Specialists (x3) (3 PO)

Tactical/Weapons Officer (Lt.) [Note 5]
Fire Control specialists (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl) [Note 6]
Defense Systems Specialists (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl) [Note 7]
Phaser Systems Technicians (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl)
Torpedo Specialists (x6) (2 PO, 4 enl)
Security Specialists (x6) (1 PO, 5 enl) [Note 8]

Medical Officer (Lt(jg).) [Note 9]
Medical Technicians (x4) (1 CPO, 3 PO)

Operations Officer (Lt(jg).) [Note 10]
Intel/Ops Specialists (x12) (1 CPO, 2 PO, 9 enl) [Note 11]
Communications Tech. (x3) (1 PO, 2 enl)

Sciences/Sensor Tech. (x6) (3 PO, 3 enl) [Note 12]

NOTES
Note 1 – Quarters shown in deckplans for “Strategic Officer” look to be for a senior officer, so I doubled this position with that of the XO.

Note 2 – The coxswain is the de facto Chief Helmsman. Also serves as the senior enlisted person aboard ship (see “Chief of the Boat” in current USN submarine service).

Note 3 – With the Coxswain, are responsible for maneuvering and navigation of the ship.

Note 4 – Responsible for maintenance of computer systems and general diagnostic engineering of other systems. Damage control when needed.

Note 5 – also indicated as having larger quarters, assumed to be third in command.

Note 6 – these personnel man the Weapon Systems station on the bridge.

Note 7 – These personnel man the Defensive systems station on the bridge.

Note 8 – Internal Security and boarding parties during Border/Customs assignments. Damage control as necessary.

Note 9 – May double as Science officer when necessary.

Note 10 – Oversees the general operations of the vessel, and command of the CIC on Deck 2.

Note 11 – these personnel man the CIC on Deck 2. three per shift in normal conditions, six in alternating shifts during combat.

Note 12 – In addition to manning the Science Station on the bridge, these personnel are responsible for the maintenance, launch, and recovery of the intelligence drones and sensor probes.
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Old August 8 2013, 12:23 PM   #32
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Re: NX Ranks and crew occupations

Here is the breakdown of the crew for my fanfic, Silverfin. As a cutter she has no need for a science staff, so most of the crew are operational based. Out of 126 crew members onboard there are just 22 officers.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=173452
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Old August 8 2013, 07:48 PM   #33
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. . .You could use a janitor or two also. That ship doesn't clean itself yet.
"Travis, I have a new assignment for you."

In real navies, every enlisted man on board is a janitor.
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Old August 8 2013, 09:24 PM   #34
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I still think you're WAY officer heavy, but...
When figuring out how many officers you're going to have (or need), try using this ...

Officers are managers.
NCOs are supervisors.
Enlisted (below NCO) are the people who actually get things done and fix things.

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Old August 8 2013, 09:31 PM   #35
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One thing to consider here is that Archer's crew breakdown probably isn't particularly representative of what Starfleet intended an NX class ship to have.

After all, Archer left for his initial mission in a hurry, intending only to shuttle a Klingon prisoner/patient/passenger to the Klingon homeworld and then to return. We know he essentially left his main armament on the pier, and only had parts of it installed in "Silent Enemy". Events just conspired to keep Archer from returning to homeport for the next two years, so he had to do with the eighty people that had boarded the ship from the intended milk run.

Archer's second mission in turn involved special arrangements such as MACO rather that Starfleet ground-fighting teams, and could once again be interpreted as running contrary to most Starfleet ideas on NX class crewing.

Comparing with the only slightly larger TOS hero ship, eighty is probably on the low side for the ideal crew complement; quite possibly Archer's crew isn't officer-heavy, but enlisted-light. He's got all the officers he needs, but those officers don't have the petty officers and crew they would usually employ in executing their decisions. Thus, Reed has a very hands-on approach to weapons maintenance, and when he gets help, it's from fellow officers rather than dedicated gunners and mechanics.

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Old August 8 2013, 09:45 PM   #36
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I don't remember seeing any shared quarters on the NX, everyone seemed to have his own private stateroom. With double bunking in some areas of the ship, Enterprise could possibly carry 125 or more.
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Old August 8 2013, 09:52 PM   #37
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Also, there were spare cabins originally: Hoshi Sato was allowed to change quarters on a whim...

Plus, we never saw how enlisteds should be accommodated in the ENT or TOS era. Quite possibly, they'd be stacked in bunk beds three high, just as in the TOS movie era, and NX-01 could accommodate some three hundred people in her bigger-than-NCC-1701 saucer.

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Old August 8 2013, 10:04 PM   #38
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Also, there were spare cabins originally: Hoshi Sato was allowed to change quarters on a whim...
If you're referring to the time she changed quarters because the stars were "going the wrong way", the quarters she wanted were occupied by someone else, and Archer approved it as long as both parties agreed.

This seemed rather unbelievable to me (though I have no military experience), because it sounds like she can't tell her right from her left, or gets confused easily when making a 180 degree turn.
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Old August 9 2013, 12:22 AM   #39
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I don't remember seeing any shared quarters on the NX, everyone seemed to have his own private stateroom. With double bunking in some areas of the ship, Enterprise could possibly carry 125 or more.
Daniels shared quarters. In Cold Front, Archer is in his cabin and he (Daniels) is picking up his roommate's socks and lamenting that the roommate is a bit of a slob. No word on what happened to his roommate when he (Daniels) left and those quarters were locked.

I believe there's also a reference somewhere to Mayweather sharing quarters, but I don't recall the specifics.
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Old August 9 2013, 12:28 AM   #40
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Dang. I watched all the episodes earlier this year, and my 6-decades old brain is already losing information. Though I did wonder if Daniels just made up that story about having a cabinmate.
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Old August 9 2013, 02:40 PM   #41
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I'd think the Captain might know if crewmen shared quarters or not.
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Old August 12 2013, 11:25 AM   #42
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Why are Hayes and Reed the only specific officers mentioned? Security seems over manned with 18 members. What exactly are they securing?
And why on Earth did Major Hayes (which is the equivalent rank of Navy LCDR) refer to Lt Reed as 'Sir'? Surely Hayes outranks him?
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Old August 12 2013, 03:37 PM   #43
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It's not exactly forbidden to address an inferior as "Sir", nor automatically insulting. Commodore Stocker in "The Deadly Years" wouldn't have been out of line when doing this to the Enterprise crew, either. It's probably a "visitors vs. home team" thing...

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Old August 12 2013, 04:17 PM   #44
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Why are Hayes and Reed the only specific officers mentioned? Security seems over manned with 18 members. What exactly are they securing?
And why on Earth did Major Hayes (which is the equivalent rank of Navy LCDR) refer to Lt Reed as 'Sir'? Surely Hayes outranks him?
I always got the impression that despite the rank differences, that Reed was in charge of overall security. It happens sometimes. I wouldn't be surprised if they were going to make him a Captain(naval equivalent of a lieutenant) and some exec decided the audience would think he's taking Archer's place.

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It's not exactly forbidden to address an inferior as "Sir", nor automatically insulting. Commodore Stocker in "The Deadly Years" wouldn't have been out of line when doing this to the Enterprise crew, either. It's probably a "visitors vs. home team" thing...

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Old naval tradition, no one outranks a captain on his own ship. Really wasn't ever relevant in Trek though given how rarely we see CO's who aren't full captains.
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Old August 14 2013, 12:52 PM   #45
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I don't remember seeing any shared quarters on the NX, everyone seemed to have his own private stateroom. With double bunking in some areas of the ship, Enterprise could possibly carry 125 or more.
Daniels shared quarters. In Cold Front, Archer is in his cabin and he (Daniels) is picking up his roommate's socks and lamenting that the roommate is a bit of a slob. No word on what happened to his roommate when he (Daniels) left and those quarters were locked.

I believe there's also a reference somewhere to Mayweather sharing quarters, but I don't recall the specifics.
In Breaking the Ice when Captain Archer is answering the school children's questions he says that most members of the crew share quarters with someone else. My guess is that only ensigns and above had private cabins.

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