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View Poll Results: How do you rate Pacific Rim?
A+ 31 24.80%
A 35 28.00%
A- 15 12.00%
B+ 25 20.00%
B 7 5.60%
B- 2 1.60%
C+ 2 1.60%
C 1 0.80%
C- 1 0.80%
D+ 1 0.80%
D 1 0.80%
D- 3 2.40%
F+ 0 0%
F 1 0.80%
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Old August 7 2013, 02:39 PM   #256
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Re: Pacific Rim - Grading and Discussion

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The Wall just didn't make any sense from the beginning. Even if it did manage to keep one out, they knew the portal would keep churning more and more out. I just don't understand the point of how anyone could have thought it was a good idea compared to countless other potential ideas. Hell, why not just gather up all the metals they wasted on the wall and dump it on top of the portal.
I'm thinking the Wall idea wouldn't favor the worlds shipping industry too much either. What happens when the worlds oceans gradually fill up with giant, vicious, dangerous sea monsters because the walls keep them off the land or out of cities???

It looks like Pacific Rim will clear $85-90 million in China which should put the Worldwide Gross between $375 and $415 million. That makes a sequel much more likely. Good news for Pacific Rim fans. Brazil, Spain and Japan are the remaining markets for PR. Japan being the most important. Hopefully it makes $30-35 million there.
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Old August 7 2013, 07:54 PM   #257
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Wow, they're not kidding about the importance of the foreign market, are they? At this rate, Del Toro could probably make a whole string of PR sequels, and if they all bombed in the US it probably wouldn't even matter much.
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Old August 8 2013, 01:53 AM   #258
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Right now it is showing a 104 million $ profit in total world wide box office. I read that the ssequel is underway but it could alays be cancled. If it contines to do well in the foreign market I still think a sequel is very possible.
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Old August 8 2013, 05:31 PM   #259
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This movie would have made huge sense if it was made as an 1800's steampunk movie with giant steam-powered robots.

But anyway, whatever, lots of stuff blowed up so I give it an A
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Old August 8 2013, 05:54 PM   #260
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Yeah, I'm not buying it. They had a surplus of men working on the wall, and there appeared to be plenty of people wandering around those cities not working on the wall of life. The material used to construct a few Jaegers is miniscule compared to that needed to build a "wall of life" around entire countries. As for money: we're talking about the end of the world here. They could just confiscate the resources or raise taxes if they're that strapped for cash.
Exactly. Besides we have a real life example to compare it against. Towards the end of WWII Germany was being bombed into instinction by the allies - yet they seemed to muster up the resources to build huge underground factories. German slaves/citizens were churning out war materials up until the final days of the war.
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Old August 8 2013, 07:13 PM   #261
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.....aaand Godwined. Thread over.
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Old August 8 2013, 07:16 PM   #262
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.....aaand Godwined. Thread over.
Technically not. Never used the, "N" word.
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Old August 8 2013, 08:19 PM   #263
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An entertaining but really dumb movie.

The wall seemed to be an ill-conceived way of having the Jaegers working with no resources.
Why not surround the rift (or what ever it was called) with a hundreds of those blasters the hero Jaeger had?
It also seems silly to station the Jaegers on land and wait until the monsters make (or almost make) landfall, when the Jaegers are water proof and could have been stationed next to the rift on rotating duty (no need to spread them out).
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Old August 8 2013, 10:48 PM   #264
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.....aaand Godwined. Thread over.
Technically not. Never used the, "N" word.
eh, close enough.
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Old August 8 2013, 11:36 PM   #265
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EyalM wrote: View Post
An entertaining but really dumb movie.

The wall seemed to be an ill-conceived way of having the Jaegers working with no resources.
Why not surround the rift (or what ever it was called) with a hundreds of those blasters the hero Jaeger had?
It also seems silly to station the Jaegers on land and wait until the monsters make (or almost make) landfall, when the Jaegers are water proof and could have been stationed next to the rift on rotating duty (no need to spread them out).
Everything that happens in this movie, happens because why not and because of rule of cool.

Every engineering undergrad can pick this movie apart in about 10 seconds. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Old August 8 2013, 11:44 PM   #266
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Re: Pacific Rim - Grading and Discussion

Shurik wrote: View Post
EyalM wrote: View Post
An entertaining but really dumb movie.

The wall seemed to be an ill-conceived way of having the Jaegers working with no resources.
Why not surround the rift (or what ever it was called) with a hundreds of those blasters the hero Jaeger had?
It also seems silly to station the Jaegers on land and wait until the monsters make (or almost make) landfall, when the Jaegers are water proof and could have been stationed next to the rift on rotating duty (no need to spread them out).
Everything that happens in this movie, happens because why not and because of rule of cool.

Every engineering undergrad can pick this movie apart in about 10 seconds. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Might as well put upThe Trope Pacific Rim page
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Old August 8 2013, 11:49 PM   #267
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Re: Pacific Rim - Grading and Discussion

Shurik wrote: View Post
EyalM wrote: View Post
An entertaining but really dumb movie.

The wall seemed to be an ill-conceived way of having the Jaegers working with no resources.
Why not surround the rift (or what ever it was called) with a hundreds of those blasters the hero Jaeger had?
It also seems silly to station the Jaegers on land and wait until the monsters make (or almost make) landfall, when the Jaegers are water proof and could have been stationed next to the rift on rotating duty (no need to spread them out).
Everything that happens in this movie, happens because why not and because of rule of cool.

Every engineering undergrad can pick this movie apart in about 10 seconds. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Pretty much this.

I loved the film and found it very entertaining (and still hope we'll see a sequel); but you CAN'T look too closely at the plot.

I mean come on - they KNOW exactly where the portal is; and have for years and are even able to predict, practically to the second, the next incursion. Given that, WHY build giant robots at all? Just set a nuke or two up at the portal, timed to go off as soon as a kaiju steps/swims through?
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Old August 9 2013, 12:46 AM   #268
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Shurik wrote: View Post
EyalM wrote: View Post
An entertaining but really dumb movie.

The wall seemed to be an ill-conceived way of having the Jaegers working with no resources.
Why not surround the rift (or what ever it was called) with a hundreds of those blasters the hero Jaeger had?
It also seems silly to station the Jaegers on land and wait until the monsters make (or almost make) landfall, when the Jaegers are water proof and could have been stationed next to the rift on rotating duty (no need to spread them out).
Everything that happens in this movie, happens because why not and because of rule of cool.

Every engineering undergrad can pick this movie apart in about 10 seconds. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Pretty much this.

I loved the film and found it very entertaining (and still hope we'll see a sequel); but you CAN'T look too closely at the plot.

I mean come on - they KNOW exactly where the portal is; and have for years and are even able to predict, practically to the second, the next incursion. Given that, WHY build giant robots at all? Just set a nuke or two up at the portal, timed to go off as soon as a kaiju steps/swims through?
It's also much easier to build 1000 bombers which can be armed with bunker busting type of rockets, have them in the air as soon as kaiju shows up and blast the damn thing until it drops dead.

There's a rocket that can penetrate 60m of reinforced concrete. I'm sure it's much easier and faster to build thousands of those than one giant robot.

But again, this movie is so entertaining that none of its logic and common sense defying plot points are able to diminish the fun of watching a giant robot punching a giant monster in the face with oil tanker.
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Old August 9 2013, 01:12 AM   #269
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It's also much easier to build 1000 bombers which can be armed with bunker busting type of rockets, have them in the air as soon as kaiju shows up and blast the damn thing until it drops dead.

There's a rocket that can penetrate 60m of reinforced concrete. I'm sure it's much easier and faster to build thousands of those than one giant robot.

But again, this movie is so entertaining that none of its logic and common sense defying plot points are able to diminish the fun of watching a giant robot punching a giant monster in the face with oil tanker.
By the logic of the movie they must have tried that with the existing inventory before the Battle of San Francisco went six days. Only giants can stop giants and for years they swung ships and cargo containers at the kaiju in hand to hand combat before trying a purpose built sword as a last ditch weapon
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Old August 9 2013, 01:37 AM   #270
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It's also much easier to build 1000 bombers which can be armed with bunker busting type of rockets, have them in the air as soon as kaiju shows up and blast the damn thing until it drops dead.
Kaiju are only vulnerable to massive amounts of kinetic energy (like a rocket power fist) or nuclear radiation. Conventional explosives just doesn't work.

There's a rocket that can penetrate 60m of reinforced concrete. I'm sure it's much easier and faster to build thousands of those than one giant robot.
The problem is that Kaiju move (quite fast when they want to). Bunker Busters are only for fixed installations.
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