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Old August 7 2013, 11:31 PM   #16
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A perennial favorite of late-night cable TV:

RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
(RKO, 1946)

Archeologist "Indy" Jones (Jimmy Stewart) and his girlfriend Marion (June Allyson) and sidekick Sallah (Orson Welles) undertake a quest to find the Ark of The Covenant before the Nazis do. Directed by John Ford (under protest and contractual obligation), Raiders continues to be a fan-favorite despite it's obvious low-budget back-lot locations. The film does feature some innovative special effects work by Ray Harryhausen (although there is an obvious pane of glass separating Stewart from a snake in one scene). Look for some interesting supporting performances by Peter Lorre as the Gestapo Agent Major Toht, and Claude Raines as Indy's rival Dr. Belloq. Despite the film's age and flaws, many find it to be superior to Steven Spielberg's 1981 re-make starring Tom Selleck as Jones and Sean Young as Marion.

(Excerpted with permission from "The Ultimate Movie Guide" by Roger Ebert (1999, Schuster & Simon, New Amsterdam)
I never much cared for Raiders...but I never passed up the chance to catch one of the old Lone Ranger movies on late night tv. I always thought Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce nailed the characters of Tonto and The Ranger. Johnny Depp's recent attempt to channel Rathbone's Tonto felt really flat by comparison, nearly as lame as that weak re-make he did of Ernest Borgnine's Oscar-winning film, Harvey.
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Old August 8 2013, 01:51 AM   #17
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Star Trek TOS has sort of become this over the years, if unintentionally.
Most TV shows are Alternate Histories to some degree.
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Old August 8 2013, 03:55 AM   #18
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A perennial favorite of late-night cable TV:

RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
(RKO, 1946)

Archeologist "Indy" Jones (Jimmy Stewart) and his girlfriend Marion (June Allyson) and sidekick Sallah (Orson Welles) undertake a quest to find the Ark of The Covenant before the Nazis do. Directed by John Ford (under protest and contractual obligation), Raiders continues to be a fan-favorite despite it's obvious low-budget back-lot locations. The film does feature some innovative special effects work by Ray Harryhausen (although there is an obvious pane of glass separating Stewart from a snake in one scene). Look for some interesting supporting performances by Peter Lorre as the Gestapo Agent Major Toht, and Claude Raines as Indy's rival Dr. Belloq. Despite the film's age and flaws, many find it to be superior to Steven Spielberg's 1981 re-make starring Tom Selleck as Jones and Sean Young as Marion.

(Excerpted with permission from "The Ultimate Movie Guide" by Roger Ebert (1999, Schuster & Simon, New Amsterdam)
I never much cared for Raiders...but I never passed up the chance to catch one of the old Lone Ranger movies on late night tv. I always thought Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce nailed the characters of Tonto and The Ranger. Johnny Depp's recent attempt to channel Rathbone's Tonto felt really flat by comparison, nearly as lame as that weak re-make he did of Ernest Borgnine's Oscar-winning film, Harvey.
Ernest Borgnine was great as The Godfather.
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Old August 8 2013, 04:10 AM   #19
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All these sci-fi/alternate history versions of "Adam 12" got me thinking: Anyone else think that the makers of "Predator 2" blew an opportunity by naming Kent McCord's character "Captain B. Pilgrim" (an Easter egg in itself) instead of "Captain Jim Reed" after his Adam-12 character?
Could be copyright reasons. Like how Tom Paris isn't named Nick Lacarno...
Meh, "Jim Reed" seems like a common enough name. (Especially since his first name would not, necessarily, have to ever be used. Just call him Captain Reed.)
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Old August 8 2013, 04:10 AM   #20
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Mickey Rooney deserved every Emmy he won as "Archie Bunker" on All In the Family.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:28 AM   #21
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Caroll O'Conner deserved more Emmies as George Jefferson.
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Old August 8 2013, 10:49 AM   #22
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Caroll O'Conner deserved more Emmies as George Jefferson.
Agreed. Its damn difficult for a white actor to pass as Hispanic.
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Old August 8 2013, 11:07 AM   #23
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Agreed. Its damn difficult for a white actor to pass as Hispanic.
Not really, they just don't pass for the cliche hispanic that most people think of when they hear the word. Not even many hispanic actors would "pass" as that specific image of a hispanic person.
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Old August 8 2013, 11:51 AM   #24
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Agreed. Its damn difficult for a white actor to pass as Hispanic.
Not really, they just don't pass for the cliche hispanic that most people think of when they hear the word. Not even many hispanic actors would "pass" as that specific image of a hispanic person.
I think you missed something there.
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Old August 8 2013, 12:36 PM   #25
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I think you missed something there.
What did I miss? I'm just pointing out that Caroll O'Conner could have easily played a hispanic guy, I know that he didn't and that you're all talking about made up alternate versions of tv shows.

But I have to admit that the clone Adam-12 story got me, I was really interested in that show and checked it out on wikipedia ... lets say I was a little bit disappointed when I realized my mistake.
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Old August 8 2013, 02:37 PM   #26
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I still like the Sliders season one episode where Rembrandt was famous; it was a world where all second bananas were famous. They were watching shows like Skipper's Island and I Love Ethel.
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Old August 8 2013, 03:50 PM   #27
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Man, there's nothing like the 20th season of Cop Rock.
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Much better than the Vanilla Ice-hosted In Living Color, to be sure. Though they did have that one actor who took off. Who was it, Will Smith?
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But I have to admit that the clone Adam-12 story got me, I was really interested in that show and checked it out on wikipedia ... lets say I was a little bit disappointed when I realized my mistake.
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Man, there's nothing like the 20th season of Cop Rock.
Sonny and Cher's 25th Wedding Anniversary Special was awesome!
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