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Old August 6 2013, 08:06 PM   #376
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The issue is less trumping the Capaldi revelation, and more wasting any missing episode announcement on people who wouldn't care. There's a reason that the 2011 returns were announced at a pre-existing missing TV event rather than becoming an event in themselves. The number of people who would react to even a sizable find with anything other than a bored "Oh, that's nice" is a fraction of those who will pay attention to big new series news.

If there's anything to announce, which I still doubt but you never know, it'll be done in comparatively low-key fashion, at Missing Believed Wiped or with an ordinary press release.
I don't know, if, IF the rumours are true not just about there being missing episodes found, but also the scale of the find then I would say that's cause for a massive announcement. In fact didn't the rumours imply it wasn't just Dr Who but other things as well thought lost? I'll be honest its hard to keep track of whats been claimed to have been found, it seems to change with every telling like Senator McCarthy's communists in the State Department. But if it is a big find thats even more reason to heavily publicise it.
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Old August 6 2013, 08:45 PM   #377
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They could find every single piece of missing TV that someone somewhere wants (and at this point that's basically what some rumors are claiming), and it still wouldn't rate more than a quick "lighter side" mention on the news, because the number of people who care about any archive television is comparatively quite small. If there's been a big find, it'll be promoted heavily by archive TV organizations and websites and discussed less if at all in wider media. It certainly would never be at any risk of overshadowing word of a new Doctor.
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Old August 6 2013, 10:43 PM   #378
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They could find every single piece of missing TV that someone somewhere wants (and at this point that's basically what some rumors are claiming), and it still wouldn't rate more than a quick "lighter side" mention on the news, because the number of people who care about any archive television is comparatively quite small. If there's been a big find, it'll be promoted heavily by archive TV organizations and websites and discussed less if at all in wider media. It certainly would never be at any risk of overshadowing word of a new Doctor.
On the flipside, Doctor Who merchandising does generate a fair bit of revenue for the BBC. If there were a dozen new DVDs suddenly available for release they'd be keen to advertise it.

I can't fully remember how big the announcements were in 2011 but I remember most news sites covered it in a standard news story, and it was on twitter a fair bit (thanks to Moffat, Levine, etc).
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Old August 6 2013, 10:56 PM   #379
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I would imagine that most of the merchandising money Doctor Who brings in is new series stuff. The classic series DVDs certainly aren't big money-makers; they're niche material, marketed to a small, devoted group, all of whom will find out about any recovery without any need for glitzy, general-audience publicity.

I'm sure there were brief, not-heavily-promoted articles about the 2011 recoveries on a lot of general-interest news sites. That's the thing about news on the web: it's not bound by time and space constraints, so it doesn't have to ignore relatively unimportant stories. But I doubt the recoveries got anything like the blitz coverage in print and TV that a new Doctor or other big new series story does.

Even when material of great cultural import is found, it doesn't make much of a splash. The 2008 recovery of a complete print of Metropolis was arguably the biggest archival recovery ever in terms of the historical and artistic significance of what was found, but it was hardly national or world news.
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Old August 7 2013, 03:14 AM   #380
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But I doubt the recoveries got anything like the blitz coverage in print and TV that a new Doctor or other big new series story does.
Actually in New Zealand it's pretty much the same. Capaldi was announced Monday morning our time, but it was forgotten 12 hours later.
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Old August 7 2013, 03:21 PM   #381
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I was surprised that CNN mentioned it here in the States. Of course, it was only a 5 second quick piece, but that's an improvement!

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Old August 7 2013, 03:56 PM   #382
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I was surprised that CNN mentioned it here in the States. Of course, it was only a 5 second quick piece, but that's an improvement!
NPR did a five minute segment on the Capaldi casting Monday morning.
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Old August 7 2013, 04:29 PM   #383
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^ That's cool. Not exactly as mainstream as CNN, but nice to hear that it was covered!
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Old August 8 2013, 06:27 AM   #384
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There was a paragraph blurb about Capaldi's casting in the International Herald Tribune (which is a smaller version of the New York Times for international markets) in the entertainment round-up section. Granted it's an European edition, but it's still a part of the Times.
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Old August 9 2013, 07:33 PM   #385
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What are the Pertwee Episodes that are/were only in Black and White before they started to recolor them?

Mind of Evil (All B/W)- just released a month or two ago in color

Ambassadors of Death (Flip flopped back and forth to B/W) - Released this year in Color

Invasion of the Dinosaurs (Ep 1 B/W) - Released a few years back in color

And there's a Dalek one also, right? Is it recolored yet?

Any more?

All my Doctor Who is TV Recordings, except I have gotten AoD and TMoE recently, and I want to get the others
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Old August 9 2013, 08:15 PM   #386
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What are the Pertwee Episodes that are/were only in Black and White before they started to recolor them?

Mind of Evil (All B/W)- just released a month or two ago in color

Ambassadors of Death (Flip flopped back and forth to B/W) - Released this year in Color

Invasion of the Dinosaurs (Ep 1 B/W) - Released a few years back in color

And there's a Dalek one also, right? Is it recolored yet?

Any more?

All my Doctor Who is TV Recordings, except I have gotten AoD and TMoE recently, and I want to get the others
Every Pertwee episode is now out on DVD, and all in colour, though in a few cases the colour-restored episode is officially listed as an optional extra (with the black and white print as the default) so as not to pretend it's 'broadcast quality', IYSWIM.
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Old August 9 2013, 11:35 PM   #387
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Rich Johnston, as if eager to prove that he's in way over his head, has posted another article. This one recycles an already-debunked claim, that the message "There will be 6 episodes. More information coming soon" on a BBC episode guide for Dad's Army means that the missing episodes of that series have been found. (Because of course this top secret recovery that has been the subject of NDAs is being plastered all over obscure BBC episode guides.) Of course, it actually means that the episode guide, when complete, will cover all six episodes. Which is why you can see similar messages on pages for other programmes, including those without missing episodes. If Johnston were cultivating fan sources who had even a minimal capacity for skepticism, they could have pointed this out to him.
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Old August 10 2013, 02:26 AM   #388
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Rich Johnston, as if eager to prove that he's in way over his head, has posted another article. This one recycles an already-debunked claim, that the message "There will be 6 episodes. More information coming soon" on a BBC episode guide for Dad's Army means that the missing episodes of that series have been found. (Because of course this top secret recovery that has been the subject of NDAs is being plastered all over obscure BBC episode guides.) Of course, it actually means that the episode guide, when complete, will cover all six episodes. Which is why you can see similar messages on pages for other programmes, including those without missing episodes. If Johnston were cultivating fan sources who had even a minimal capacity for skepticism, they could have pointed this out to him.
I'm not following this... There are only three missing episodes of Dad's Army, so where does the six click in?
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Old August 10 2013, 02:52 AM   #389
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^As I read it, the point is that the "six episodes" line had nothing to do with missing episodes but was instead about the contents of an upcoming episode guide. It was misinterpreted.
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Jeez, he's really grasping at straws to prove himself, isn't he? Almost as bad as Ian Levine.
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