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Old August 6 2013, 09:10 AM   #31
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It's the beard isn't it
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Old August 6 2013, 09:12 AM   #32
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Yes. And the evil.

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Old August 6 2013, 09:43 AM   #33
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If Capaldi uses his own accent, and I think he will, I could see the BBC getting a bit poncey about The Master having another non-English accent (or 'regional accent', in that horrible expression). But if they're not, I think James Nesbitt would play well opposite him. And Jekyll showed that he makes a great Moffatt-penned bad guy.

He and Capaldi once appeared together in a BBC drama called Passer-By. Nesbitt was a witness to a crime and Capaldi was the barrister cross-examining him, a fairly small role. IIRC, they did seem to have quite a good dynamic together in that short exchange.
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Old August 6 2013, 12:24 PM   #34
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Much as I wanted Alex Siddig to play the Doctor, I think he'd make a great Master too, although casting a black/asian actor or a woman would provoke cries of "Oh not good enough to be the Doctor but they can be the bad guy" although personally I think it would be a good intro into the 13th Doctor maybe being of ethnic origin.
True, but I would like to see it. Plus, he has the beard for it.
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Old August 6 2013, 12:36 PM   #35
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If we get a female Master then I'd want a male Rani to balance things out. : P
That would confuse many newer fans, and even old ones alike. Why not just bring back a female Rani if we need a female rogue timelord? I think that was the whole reason she was even created.
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Old August 6 2013, 01:40 PM   #36
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I'd dearly love to see Alan Rickman as the Master.
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Old August 6 2013, 03:47 PM   #37
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I'd dearly love to see Alan Rickman as the Master.
Yes, absolutely, he's been my favorite fantasy Master for years.
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Old August 6 2013, 05:00 PM   #38
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The Master?
- Brad Dourif
- Benedict Cumberbatch
- Natalie Dormer
- Christoph Waltz
- Lara Pulver
- Zoe Saldana
I really like the idea of Dourif or Waltz. Both are great in whatever they do.

Slightly OT, is there any kind of role for Brian Blessed? Obviously, not a small role, because I don't think he's one for small roles. But a one-shot?
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Old August 6 2013, 05:08 PM   #39
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The Master?
- Brad Dourif
- Benedict Cumberbatch
- Natalie Dormer
- Christoph Waltz
- Lara Pulver
- Zoe Saldana
I really like the idea of Dourif or Waltz. Both are great in whatever they do.

Slightly OT, is there any kind of role for Brian Blessed? Obviously, not a small role, because I don't think he's one for small roles. But a one-shot?
Maybe Donna's Marriage didn't work out, and we could bring Brian Blessed in to play a Warlord and become a great husband to Donna...Oh wait....we've done that already (On Classic Who and on Blake's 7)

I'm always up for Brian Blessed Guest Starring Roles
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Old August 6 2013, 08:55 PM   #40
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Seriously, no love for Gary Oldman?
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Old August 6 2013, 09:01 PM   #41
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^ it's not that there's no love for that idea, it's just that its not very likely. It's probably a quarter of a century since he last did UK TV. I think his last US TV appearance was in Friends, which always attracted big stars.

I think for the most part, people are thinking about who is likely to appear as well as who they'd like to see. Of course Oldman would be a great Master - probably a great Doctor too - but I'd say there's virtually no chance of him doing it.
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Old August 6 2013, 09:24 PM   #42
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^ it's not that there's no love for that idea, it's just that its not very likely. It's probably a quarter of a century since he last did UK TV. I think his last US TV appearance was in Friends, which always attracted big stars.

I think for the most part, people are thinking about who is likely to appear as well as who they'd like to see. Of course Oldman would be a great Master - probably a great Doctor too - but I'd say there's virtually no chance of him doing it.
I agree it's unlikely. But these days, Who has gained serious attention, and can attract big actors for limited engagements. They got Derek Jacobi, who admittedly isn't as big as Oldman, but he's still big. Known internationally, and has essentially "moved beyond television." Not to mention Ian McKellen or John-flipping-Hurt. So Oldman is unlikely, yes, but not out of the range of possibility.

Anyhow, who I'd cast as the Master would depend very much on how Capaldi plays the Doctor. However you see the Master vs. the Doctor -- "Mirror image," "dark reflection" or "similar traits turned up to eleven" -- it depends very much on the Doctor's performance and we really have no idea how Capaldi is going to play him, except that it certainly won't be either exactly like Matt Smith or Malcom-Tucker-in-the-TARDIS.

If he's a calmer, more reserved Doctor along the lines of Pertwee or Eccleston, I'd rather see a demonstrative, aggressive and flamboyant Master. Someone like (but not) Eddie Izzard maybe. If Capaldi is more a "young heart in an old man's body," then go with, I dunno, Robert Lindsay.

For me, Cumberbatch only would have worked as the Master against Smith, and I'm very sorry we never got to see that happen. Cumberbatch playing a very reserved, stoic, contemplative villain with the occasional flash of insane, dark rage would have been a perfect counterpoint to Smith's loveable, affable frenetic awkwardness.
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Old August 6 2013, 09:44 PM   #43
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^ I agree with you re Smith/Cumberbatch and I think the other suggestions you make are very good indeed.
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Old August 6 2013, 09:49 PM   #44
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See I think Cumberbatch would have been way too similar to Smith. I actually think someone like Capaldi would have made a good Master for Smith, as Moffat says Smith is an old man in a young man's body whilst Capaldi will be a young man in an old man's body, and that's the dynamic Id have like to have seen....
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Old August 6 2013, 09:52 PM   #45
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I think after Star Trek ID, its probably going to need to be a while before Cumberbatch plays an iconic sci-fi villain anyway. I liked his performance but there's going to be a risk of over-exposure as the sci-fi villain du jour.
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