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View Poll Results: Do you like the concept of Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor?
Yes 143 85.12%
No 5 2.98%
Neutral So Far :| 20 11.90%
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Old August 4 2013, 11:06 PM   #46
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Re: Do you like the idea of Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor?

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I'm not sure where I read it, but I think there was a long-term plan for the Sixth Doctor to start off volatile and then have him gradually become less so.
Yeah, I wouldn't have been surprised if thy were planning to put him in more "tame" clothe eventually.

BTW, I made this, just so we can see them all together....

Capaldi has an evil look on his face like he's about to whisper the words "fuck" and "cunt" and so ruin many thousands of childhoods.
If he did that, he'd automatically become my favourite doctor of all time.

In that picture, he actually reminds me of an older looking version of David Tennant. Plus the blue suit he has on is similar to Tenant's.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:13 PM   #47
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Re: Do you like the idea of Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor?

Just looked up Capaldi's IMDB page and he was John Frobisher on Torchwood: Children of Earth. I remember that role, and how interesting and good it was. Now I'm even more excited he has been cast as the new Doctor.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:14 PM   #48
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In that picture, he actually reminds me of an older looking version of David Tennant. Plus the blue suit he has on is similar to Tenant's.
I've been getting the "older David Tennant" vibe too. Maybe they're long-lost cousins or something.

Incidentally, I think he looks more ready for the role in that picture than his three immediate predecessors do in theirs (though I think Smith's is just a set photo).
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Old August 4 2013, 11:19 PM   #49
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Oh, I've just thought of something. Is Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor actually going to turn into the Valeyard?

In A Trial of A Timelord, the Master stated that the Valeyard takes place between his twelfth and final incarnation. Now if Hurt is actually one of the doctors incarnations, that'd make Capaldi the twelfth doctor, but the thirteenth body the doctor has had, so surely this is around the time the Doctor becomes the Valeyard, and it's clear Moffat has not forgotten the Valeyard due to the reference in the Name of the Doctor. And maybe The Eleventh Doctors dealings with the Hurt doctor in the 50th will darken him, so he gradually gets more malicious until finally during some point as Capaldi, he snaps and becomes the Valeyard. Or maybe the doctor is becoming aware of his mortality when he gets to being Capaldi, so he sort of breaks down somewhere in this incarnation and becomes the Valeyard. Maybe Clara will die horribly and this turns him. Plus quite some time ago today, I thought Capaldi would play the Valeyard well, so maybe this is why Moffat has cast him. Maybe it could be what Moffat has planned for Series 8. Heck, the reference in Name of the Doctor could be a little hint like RTD did in his series.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:26 PM   #50
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Oh, I've just thought of something. Is Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor actually going to turn into the Valeyard?
Nope. The Valeyard was a distillation of the Doctor's darker persona, his evil side given physical form. You could say that he was created more from the Doctor than anything else.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:27 PM   #51
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In that picture, he actually reminds me of an older looking version of David Tennant. Plus the blue suit he has on is similar to Tenant's.
I've been getting the "older David Tennant" vibe too. Maybe they're long-lost cousins or something.

Incidentally, I think he looks more ready for the role in that picture than his three immediate predecessors do in theirs (though I think Smith's is just a set photo).
So I'm not just going mad then.

Good point, after examining it a bit, I was thinking he was looking very doctorish, reminded me of David tenant and Jon Pertwee the most in that picture.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:29 PM   #52
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Oh, I've just thought of something. Is Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor actually going to turn into the Valeyard?
Nope. The Valeyard was a distillation of the Doctor's darker persona, his dark side given physical form. You could say that he was created more from the Doctor than anything else.
Ah, so he's like if the Dream Lord escaped into reality?

But either way, The Valeyard needs to escape into reality soon, as it's about this time it happens. Personally, I'd like to have The Valeyards original actor come back for an episode or two (or three (or four) ). Maybe even have his as a recurring villain for the twelfth doctor.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:33 PM   #53
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Perfect choice!
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Old August 4 2013, 11:33 PM   #54
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No opinion as I'm not really that familiar with his work.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:40 PM   #55
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His character Malcolm Tucker once threatened to snap some guys legs off at the knees and then stab him in the heart with his own fucking shins... But he said the f word excessively more than once during the threat.

Also, a predominant character in Torch Wood: Children of Earth.

Peter's name in the thread title?

Classy.

Fricking classy.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:46 PM   #56
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Oh, I've just thought of something. Is Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor actually going to turn into the Valeyard?
Nope. The Valeyard was a distillation of the Doctor's darker persona, his evil side given physical form. You could say that he was created more from the Doctor than anything else.
Also, the Valeyard's plan involved changing the Doctor's past, so arguably all bets are off.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:47 PM   #57
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I haven't really seen him in anything, so I'll have to stay neutral till I see something. I'm sure he'll do fine though. My partner wasn't impressed, even though he hasn't seen him in anything either. I don't know what he's fretting about really.

One thing that made me smile was doing a search on Wiki to see what he'd done in the past: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Capaldi He was cast as a WHO doctor last year in World War Z and it passed us all by!
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Old August 4 2013, 11:54 PM   #58
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Oh, I've just thought of something. Is Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor actually going to turn into the Valeyard?
Nope. The Valeyard was a distillation of the Doctor's darker persona, his evil side given physical form. You could say that he was created more from the Doctor than anything else.
Also, the Valeyard's plan involved changing the Doctor's past, so arguably all bets are off.
Wouldn't that lead to a paradox then. Or is it not a fixed point in time? (but you'd think it was)

Then again, the Master said it was in-between the doctors twelfth and final incarnation. If Hurt is an incarnation, then it'd mean Capaldi is already the thirteenth incarnation, and plus we all know the doctor will most likely last beyond his thirteenth incarnation now, so it could be anywhere in-between the Capaldi doctor and some random one decades away. Maybe the Master wasn't really be as specific as once thought, maybe he just knew it was between the twelfth doctor and the last.
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Oh, I've just thought of something. Is Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor actually going to turn into the Valeyard?
Nope. The Valeyard was a distillation of the Doctor's darker persona, his evil side given physical form. You could say that he was created more from the Doctor than anything else.
Also, the Valeyard's plan involved changing the Doctor's past, so arguably all bets are off.
They did describe him as a twisting of the potentials into a darker unlikely outcome... But then the Master showed up and said that the Valeyard was kicking his ass from one side of the Galaxy to the other, and that the only way to save himself was to save the Doctor from becoming the Valeyard.
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Hmm. The thing is though in Name of the Doctor, the Great Intelligence knew of the Valeyard.
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