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View Poll Results: Do you like the concept of Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor?
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Old August 4 2013, 10:27 PM   #31
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McCoy was the biggest deviation from the Edwardian gentleman character of the Doctor
What? He's completely in the mould of the second and fourth incarnations.
Yeah, or at least in his first two series he was very clownish. In his third series he didn't become a gentleman, he just became slightly more mature and darker.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:36 PM   #32
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I liked the Kinetic energy 10 and 11 had. And not all original 8 doctors were "proper" and gentlemanly like, Tom Baker (arguably the doctor who's had the most impact and probably one of the most popular doctors) was more in line with 10 & 11 then the more posh doctors. Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy weren't very gentleman like either.
McCoy was the biggest deviation from the Edwardian gentleman character of the Doctor and I'll concede Tom Baker was a bit different too, but they still have much, much more in common with the rest of the classic Doctors than with Shagger and Smudger. Not sure how Colin's Doctor wasn't a gentleman. He had a pocket watch and everything.
Matt Smith had a pocket watch and waist coat as well as Colin baker. Besides, Colin Baker tried to kill Peri on his first adventure, and always was a bit rude and oh yeah, he dressed like a clown, do you call that very gentlemanly. If Colin Baker was a gentleman, so was Matt Smith.
The Sixth Doctor was suffering from regeneration trauma when he tried to strangle Peri, and regretted it. From some people's descriptions of the Sixth Doctor, you'd think they'd only watched The Twin Dilemma (I'll save anyone the bother of saying that no one would bother watching anything beyond that because it was so bad by saying it here).
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Old August 4 2013, 10:40 PM   #33
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Neutral here. I'm happy they chose to go in a different direction with an older actor, but I haven't seen enough of his work to know one way or the other what he may be like in the title role.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:40 PM   #34
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Re: Do you like the idea of Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor?

Just watched the special, and my first reaction, being the ignorant fan that I am, was that he looked like the Country Singer Randy Travis (Hope he's doing ok, it wasn't looking good a few weeks ago). My second thought was I like that they went with an older Doctor finally after two pretty young doctors. My third thought was I can't wait to see him in the role. I think he will do a great job and hopefully he brings some of that seriousness from Chris Eccleston back.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:40 PM   #35
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McCoy was the biggest deviation from the Edwardian gentleman character of the Doctor and I'll concede Tom Baker was a bit different too, but they still have much, much more in common with the rest of the classic Doctors than with Shagger and Smudger. Not sure how Colin's Doctor wasn't a gentleman. He had a pocket watch and everything.
Matt Smith had a pocket watch and waist coat as well as Colin baker. Besides, Colin Baker tried to kill Peri on his first adventure, and always was a bit rude and oh yeah, he dressed like a clown, do you call that very gentlemanly. If Colin Baker was a gentleman, so was Matt Smith.
The Sixth Doctor was suffering from regeneration trauma when he tried to strangle Peri, and regretted it. From some people's descriptions of the Sixth Doctor, you'd think they'd only watched The Twin Dilemma (I'll save anyone the bother of saying that no one would bother watching anything beyond that because it was so bad by saying it here).
He was very un-gentlemanly like through out his regeneration though. In fact, this is hat Wikipedia said about the sixth doctors personality:

The Sixth Doctor was an unpredictable and somewhat petulant egoist, whose garish, multicoloured attire reflected his volatile personality. He was both portentous and eloquent, even for the Doctor - of whom he saw himself as the finest incarnation yet – and his unpredictability was made even wilder by his mood swings, manic behaviour, bombastic outbursts and glib, unflappable wit. His personality also displayed occasionally fatalistic overtones.

The Sixth Doctor was almost supremely confident in his abilities and did not suffer fools gladly; he sometimes seemed to endure Peri's presence far more than he actually appreciated it, and his superiority complex applied to almost everyone he encountered. His intellect could support his ego; for instance, the Sixth Doctor was the only one who was able to repair and operate the Chameleon Circuit within the TARDIS, allowing it to change shape to suit its surroundings rather than looking constantly like a police box (although the appropriateness of the TARDIS's appearance to its environment was more-or-less nil) in Attack of the Cybermen. However, not only did his melodramatic arrogance and caustic wit eventually subside, it actually hid the fact that this incarnation retained the Doctor's strong moral sense and empathy, as seen in Revelation of the Daleks, in which he showed great compassion for a dying mutant; and The Trial of a Time Lord, where he displayed outrage at his own people for their part in a plot and cover-up which resulted in the death of most of the Earth's population. Underneath his blustering exterior, he was more determined than ever in his universal battles against evil, possessed of a tenacity and a thirst to do what was right that was far more visible than ever before. Despite his often unstable demeanour, he was always ready to act when necessary, and very little – even his companions – could hope to stand in his way.

His condescension towards the universe around him also extended to his companions, especially Peri. While his use of violence against his foes and his abrasive relationship with Peri were both often criticised by fans, the violence was largely in self-defence, and his relationship with Peri had mellowed significantly when the programme returned from hiatus for Season 23's The Trial of a Time Lord.

He was well known for his love of cats, and always wore one of a number of cat-shaped pins or brooches on the lapel of his patchwork coat, itself said to be the height of fashion on a distant planet.[citation needed]

The events surrounding the production of Doctor Who in the mid-1980s caused the Sixth Doctor's tenure to be cut short, and for a long time Colin Baker bore the brunt of the blame as the "unlikeable" Doctor.[citation needed]

The Sixth Doctor's return in the Big Finish Productions audio plays, voiced by Baker, the series have gone some way to move the personality of the Doctor forward thus the Sixth Doctor appearing to be a somewhat calmer, wittier and altogether happier character (attributed in-story to the influence of companion Evelyn Smythe). In a 2001 poll in Doctor Who Magazine, Baker was voted the "greatest Doctor" of the audio plays. Baker has said that he was not given enough time in the 1980s to 'unpeel the layers' of his character.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:45 PM   #36
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I would have cast Ben Winshaw
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Old August 4 2013, 10:48 PM   #37
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The Sixth Doctor's return in the Big Finish Productions audio plays, voiced by Baker, the series have gone some way to move the personality of the Doctor forward thus the Sixth Doctor appearing to be a somewhat calmer, wittier and altogether happier character (attributed in-story to the influence of companion Evelyn Smythe). In a 2001 poll in Doctor Who Magazine, Baker was voted the "greatest Doctor" of the audio plays. Baker has said that he was not given enough time in the 1980s to 'unpeel the layers' of his character.
I'm not sure where I read it, but I think there was a long-term plan for the Sixth Doctor to start off volatile and then have him gradually become less so.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:49 PM   #38
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I would have cast Ben Winshaw
Far too similar to Smith IMO, and you're assuming he'd even want the job.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:56 PM   #39
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I would have cast Ben Winshaw
Far too similar to Smith IMO, and you're assuming he'd even want the job.
Yeah, and it's about time they get out of the "young" mold.

Though, already some of my female friends are lamenting the loss of "hottie" Matt Smith replaced by "old guy" Capaldi.

How glib. **sigh**
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Old August 4 2013, 11:00 PM   #40
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The Sixth Doctor's return in the Big Finish Productions audio plays, voiced by Baker, the series have gone some way to move the personality of the Doctor forward thus the Sixth Doctor appearing to be a somewhat calmer, wittier and altogether happier character (attributed in-story to the influence of companion Evelyn Smythe). In a 2001 poll in Doctor Who Magazine, Baker was voted the "greatest Doctor" of the audio plays. Baker has said that he was not given enough time in the 1980s to 'unpeel the layers' of his character.
I'm not sure where I read it, but I think there was a long-term plan for the Sixth Doctor to start off volatile and then have him gradually become less so.
Yeah, I wouldn't have been surprised if thy were planning to put him in more "tame" clothe eventually.

BTW, I made this, just so we can see them all together....

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Old August 4 2013, 11:01 PM   #41
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I was surprised, while on the way home from work and wondering what had been announced, to find myself hoping it was Capaldi, and even more surprised at how pleased I was to read he was the one. Obviously there's no way to know what I'll think of his performance, but based on his background and previous work, I'm looking forward to finding out.
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Oldness is cool. I like oldness.
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I would have cast Ben Winshaw
Far too similar to Smith IMO, and you're assuming he'd even want the job.
Yeah, and it's about time they get out of the "young" mold.

Though, already some of my female friends are lamenting the loss of "hottie" Matt Smith replaced by "old guy" Capaldi.

How glib. **sigh**
Unfortunately (Or fortunately, depending on your point of view I suppose), you're going to get that part of the fanbase. In fact, watching the special they even brought it up as one of the commentators said (I think it was) Partwee was the most attractive Doctor. You do lose some of the sex appeal for the new choice, but hopefully you're gaining a new fresh direction for the show, maybe even a darker direction.
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The Sixth Doctor's return in the Big Finish Productions audio plays, voiced by Baker, the series have gone some way to move the personality of the Doctor forward thus the Sixth Doctor appearing to be a somewhat calmer, wittier and altogether happier character (attributed in-story to the influence of companion Evelyn Smythe). In a 2001 poll in Doctor Who Magazine, Baker was voted the "greatest Doctor" of the audio plays. Baker has said that he was not given enough time in the 1980s to 'unpeel the layers' of his character.
I'm not sure where I read it, but I think there was a long-term plan for the Sixth Doctor to start off volatile and then have him gradually become less so.
Yeah, I wouldn't have been surprised if thy were planning to put him in more "tame" clothe eventually.

BTW, I made this, just so we can see them all together....

Capaldi has an evil look on his face like he's about to whisper the words "fuck" and "cunt" and so ruin many thousands of childhoods.
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Oldness is cool. I like oldness.
I wonder if he'll say "I'm old now, being old is cool."
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