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Old August 1 2013, 11:34 PM   #16
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Re: Avatar 2, 3, and 4

At least it will look nice.

But the good movie theatre around me closed, so no more $5 Tuesday movies. It's probably $12 plus $3 for the fuckign glasses.
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Old August 1 2013, 11:46 PM   #17
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I loved Avatar and I am really looking forward to more entries.
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Old August 1 2013, 11:48 PM   #18
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I've warmed to the first movie, but I wonder how much mileage Cameron can truly get out of three sequels.
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Old August 1 2013, 11:53 PM   #19
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I'm not too worried about them running out of plot in the sequels. To be frank, the first one had all recycled plots and designs - they could actually do a lot better with a follow up. Empire Strikes Back time...
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Old August 2 2013, 12:12 AM   #20
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I think there's plenty of potential there for exploring the world further, and expanding the Avatar universe beyond just that one world (it would be fun to see Sully exploring other planets, for instance, or joining a group of alien mercenaries for some kind of mission), but unfortunately it sounds like all Cameron is really interested in doing is hitting the same conservation theme again and again. And only exploring different corners of Pandora and it's moons.

Which is going to get really old really quick.
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Old August 2 2013, 05:48 PM   #21
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I'd like to see it take the Avatar premise beyond just Pandora. I remember reading a novel by Stephen Baxter in the 90s which had microscopic beings created to live in the environment of a star. Would be cool to see something like that explored that would be completely foreign and different than any type of 'alien planet' that's been shown in movies over the years.
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Old August 2 2013, 11:59 PM   #22
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So Cameron is going to make us watch these till we are blue in the face.
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Old August 3 2013, 03:08 AM   #23
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Assuming they continue where Avatar set precedent, then these will be movies in which 3-D actually does enhance it. On the other hand, the stories will suck ass.
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Old August 4 2013, 03:46 AM   #24
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Assuming they continue where Avatar set precedent, then these will be movies in which 3-D actually does enhance it. On the other hand, the stories will suck ass.
Maybe by the last one he will get tired and hire someone who can write.
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Old August 4 2013, 04:03 AM   #25
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I see you. I'll see you again.
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Old August 4 2013, 08:07 PM   #26
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I'm not sure why some people are acting like this is some out-of-the-blue hastily tacked on addition to a standalone film because of Hollywood's greedy demand for sequels. Cameron said he always intended for it to be a trilogy before the first film even debuted, and he's a very detail oriented filmmaker, so I'm sure he has a fairly extensive outline on where the sequels are going to go that he'll give to his new writing partners. The only thing really new about this announcement (other than giving the release timeline and announcing new collaborators and so forth) is the expansion to four films instead of a trilogy.

I figure the sequels will go something like this:

- Avatar 2 (Set ~6 years after the first film):
Jake and Neytiri have united all the land-bound clans, because Jake knows that the humans will eventually return in force, and only through unity do they have strength. However, the powerful seagoing clans on the islands feel threatened by this unified tribe and begin raiding coastal villages using technology acquired from the former human colonists through trade and raids. Jake must fight them and eventually win them over to his side. Lots of oceangoing and underwater action. Jake and Neytiri have a child or children (as Neytiri was pregnant in CGI scenes that didn't make it in the final film). Human scientists, mercenaries, refugees, and adventurers from expeditions launched before the fall of the Hell's Gate Colony continue to arrive and are given a choice: stay and obey the Na'Vi's rules for peaceful coexistence and preserving the environment, or return home. Most leave, but some choose to stay and swell the Na'Vi's ranks of allies.

- Avatar 3 (Set ~12 years after the first film):
Jake and Neytiri's children are reaching the Na'Vi age of maturity, and their parents begin training them as warriors, leaders, etc. The military/industrialist human forces return with extensive vehicles, weapons, and personnel to retake the planet. The combined clans of Pandora and their human allies must use a mix of old and new technology to repel the invaders and preserve the planet's environment. The humans are eventually convinced to call a truce after a fierce battle when it's discovered that Earth once had its own global consciousness similar to Pandora's Eya, and that it can be revived and used to return the planet's ecosystem to a healthy status again. Neytiri was killed in the battle, and gives Jake this information after bonding with Eya. Jake is heartbroken, and decides to return to Earth with the humans and his children to awaken "Gaia."

- Avatar 4 (Set ~18 years after the first film):
Jake and his children arrive back at Earth to find it not only environmentally devastated, but torn apart by corporate and civil war. While most treat his mission to revive the Earth consciousness with ridicule and dismissiveness, some factions that wish to keep exploiting resources on Earth and Pandora seek to assassinate him and prevent his mission. They eventually succeed despite this, and Earth begins to cleanse itself of the toxins in its atmosphere. Earth and Pandora begin a new era of shared peaceful coexistence. Jake decides to transfer his consciousness into a human body again and remain on Earth, since Pandora would no longer be the same without Neytiri. His children return home and eventually become the new rulers of the unified clans and human colonists.

I know that sounds like a lot of cheesy hippie Earth-mother stuff, but that's essentially what Cameron is doing anyway, so it wouldn't surprise me if things went that way.
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Old August 4 2013, 08:59 PM   #27
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Nah.

Avatar 2: big evil mining company returns to pandora and bombs the shit out of the planet from orbit getting rid of the pesky natives. Wholesale mining of the planet begins

Avatar 3: mining continues

Avatar 4: mining continues until no more unobtainium left, move onto the next planet
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Old August 4 2013, 10:40 PM   #28
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Nah.

Avatar 2: big evil mining company returns to pandora and bombs the shit out of the planet from orbit getting rid of the pesky natives. Wholesale mining of the planet begins

Avatar 3: mining continues

Avatar 4: mining continues until no more unobtainium left, move onto the next planet
Clearly I was under the mistaken impression that we were talking about what James Cameron would possibly do with the sequels, not what would happen if the situation were real and involved spaceships and modern armies vs. Indian Smurfs.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:50 PM   #29
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As impressive as the world look, I can't imagine much happening there that's really that's dramatically interesting. that is the real flaw here.
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Old August 5 2013, 02:12 AM   #30
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Llama wrote: View Post
Nah.

Avatar 2: big evil mining company returns to pandora and bombs the shit out of the planet from orbit getting rid of the pesky natives. Wholesale mining of the planet begins

Avatar 3: mining continues

Avatar 4: mining continues until no more unobtainium left, move onto the next planet
So, no chance for Avatar 5?
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