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Old August 1 2013, 03:15 AM   #61
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Ugh. If anyone should be wearing something sleek and form-fitting, it's a speedster. Runners don't wear padding.
The explained the padded suit in the 90s series by saying it was a prototype deep sea suit that molded to his body and expanded to help withstand the pressure.


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Old August 1 2013, 03:32 AM   #62
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I remember loving the 90s show at the time, but I tried rewatching it recently and... ugh.

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Ugh. If anyone should be wearing something sleek and form-fitting, it's a speedster. Runners don't wear padding.
I thought the suit looked fine; for me the problem was Shipp just looked WAY too big and buff to be playing The Flash. Hell, he was almost at Swarzenegger levels, which is not exactly the body type you imagine for a character like that.

And every time he ran, he looked just about as graceful too (which is to say, not at all).
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Old August 1 2013, 03:34 AM   #63
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^No, the suit's sculpted "musculature" made Shipp look more muscular than he really was. As stated above, it was a full-body prosthetic that he had to be glued into piece by piece.

Either way, though, I agree -- it didn't suggest a runner's physique.
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Old August 1 2013, 03:38 AM   #64
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Ugh. If anyone should be wearing something sleek and form-fitting, it's a speedster. Runners don't wear padding.
Something like this?

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Old August 1 2013, 03:43 AM   #65
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^Give it a texture a la the MoS suit and give the yellow pieces a metallic gold look, and that classic look could be just right.

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The explained the padded suit in the 90s series by saying it was a prototype deep sea suit that molded to his body and expanded to help withstand the pressure.
I'm well aware, and I always thought it was a stupid explanation. Because if there's something that a speedster would be more likely to wear than a muscle suit, it's a diving suit!

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Either way, though, I agree -- it didn't suggest a runner's physique.
Thank god, I'm not the only one.
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Old August 1 2013, 03:47 AM   #66
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I'm well aware, and I always thought it was a stupid explanation. Because if there's something that a speedster would be more likely to wear than a muscle suit, it's a diving suit!
It's not stupid to acknowledge basic physics. The forces involved in running at that speed would be considerable. The comics' Flash is assumed to generate a force field to protect him from burning up due to atmospheric friction; in the show, it was his costume that gave him that protection. (Although they did tend to ignore this later on.) Plus it gave them a justification for why he needed to wear a special outfit in the first place. Personally I would've liked a sleeker design, something that looked high-tech and not so muscley, but the in-story justification was hardly stupid.
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Old August 1 2013, 03:59 AM   #67
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It's not giving him a special suit that could withstand his speed that's the issue. It's that they used that explanation as the excuse to give him a Batman '89-style muscle suit. They could have put him in something sleeker and used the same explanation (and it would have been closer to reality, since actual wetsuits are form-fitting).

There's a difference between the real-world design and the in-universe explanation used to justify it. My problem is with the former, and the latter doesn't change what it actually is.
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Old August 1 2013, 04:10 AM   #68
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Good point about the runner's physique, but I still think what we got was better aesthetically. There weren't many creative options at the time and the only other one I can think of would have been a bright spandex outfit.

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I definitely don't want to see that. I want something more akin to the 90s show. That's the Flash I know best. I've never seen the character as lighthearted despite how he was presented in Justice League or whatever.
Well, that's the thing about the '90s show -- it changed drastically in tone over the course of its season. It started out trying to be as dark and serious as the Burton Batman, but by the season finale it was at full-on Adam West levels of campiness. And really, even well before that, the show's Barry had become more lighthearted than he was in the pilot where he was all about avenging his brother.
The tone did change right after the pilot and they did add a little more camp, but I thought it maintained its darker tone well enough from beginning to end.

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Heck, as early as the fourth episode (the third one aired) they introduced the recurring love interest that he had a fairly light and comic romance with.
Amanda Pays? They seemed to have had a good working relationship from the beginning with a bit of a budding romance toward the end. That's what I remember anyway. I don't remember anything overly light or comic.

Back to the suit... The new one has electric seams that light up and emit electricity when he runs. I can see them wanting to add a little something to update the effects and make them special, but I don't know if this would work in live action.



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Old August 1 2013, 05:01 AM   #69
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There weren't many creative options at the time and the only other one I can think of would have been a bright spandex outfit.
Gasp--they couldn't do that....That's what...runners wear...!
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Old August 1 2013, 05:03 AM   #70
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I am thinking Christopher meant the private detective Megan Lockhart. She learned his secret in one episode and later appeared in both episodes with the Trickster.
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Old August 1 2013, 01:49 PM   #71
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Yes, I meant Megan. Tina McGee (Pays) was a regular introduced in the pilot, not a recurring character introduced in the fourth episode.
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Old August 1 2013, 02:07 PM   #72
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Amanda Pays is lovely but... Paula Marshall is geometrically "better".

I loved Julio's hair, and pictures of him without dreadlocks look wrong, but what's really amazing is that the actor grew up to be Nick Fury.
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Old August 1 2013, 03:29 PM   #73
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Back to the suit... The new one has electric seams that light up and emit electricity when he runs. I can see them wanting to add a little something to update the effects and make them special, but I don't know if this would work in live action.



I would be very happy if we got something close to this. The Flash is one of my favourite New 52 comics and I love this look. Especially the way Francis Manapul draws him.
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Old August 1 2013, 05:54 PM   #74
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I hope they use the more traditional logo from the comics. Not the simplified one used in animation.
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