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Old August 1 2013, 05:44 AM   #76
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Re: Loved Trek Characters You Just Don't Like

I don't like Kai Winn AT ALL.
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Old August 1 2013, 06:09 AM   #77
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I don't like Kai Winn AT ALL.
Well of course not. She's a lying, conniving, power-hungry loon. She was awesome as a villain though. Not up to the standards of Dukat, but still very vicious.

She's like the Professor Umbridge of DS9. You're supposed to want to kill her.
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Old August 1 2013, 09:35 AM   #78
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I don't like Kai Winn AT ALL.
Well of course not. She's a lying, conniving, power-hungry loon. She was awesome as a villain though. Not up to the standards of Dukat, but still very vicious.

She's like the Professor Umbridge of DS9. You're supposed to want to kill her.
Yeah she's not exactly a loved character
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Old August 1 2013, 10:54 AM   #79
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She's in my top 10, I love how nuanced and narcissistic she is. Fantastic actor.

By "loved" I think the question means "you would like this person to be your parent, sibling, lover, friend".
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Old August 1 2013, 11:29 AM   #80
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Seven Of Nine, and it's not even close.

Boring, bland character, catsuits and hairdo that for me undid the obvious "sexualisation" they were going for with the character.

If they had put her in a starfleet uniform with her hair down and allowed just a modicum of personality, then maybe it would have worked, but the character just failed on every level for me yet still became a pop culture icon that transcended Trek.

and i still can't figure out why
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Old August 1 2013, 03:11 PM   #81
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Seven Of Nine, and it's not even close.

Boring, bland character, catsuits and hairdo that for me undid the obvious "sexualisation" they were going for with the character.

If they had put her in a starfleet uniform with her hair down and allowed just a modicum of personality, then maybe it would have worked, but the character just failed on every level for me yet still became a pop culture icon that transcended Trek.

and i still can't figure out why
Ask any 14 year old boy and all will become clear.
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Old August 1 2013, 03:32 PM   #82
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Seven Of Nine, and it's not even close.

Boring, bland character, catsuits and hairdo that for me undid the obvious "sexualisation" they were going for with the character.

If they had put her in a starfleet uniform with her hair down and allowed just a modicum of personality, then maybe it would have worked, but the character just failed on every level for me yet still became a pop culture icon that transcended Trek.

and i still can't figure out why
Hmm...I personally would NEVER describe her as bland or boring. I like her bluntness and sarcasm. Also relearning how to be a human being in and of itself is interesting. I love her interactions with the Doc.

To the people who just like her for her sexy body...young boys...I mean, I just have to say that is NOT why I love her. I love her because she makes me laugh, she's badass, and has some amazingly sarcastic lines.
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Old August 1 2013, 03:33 PM   #83
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She's in my top 10, I love how nuanced and narcissistic she is. Fantastic actor.

By "loved" I think the question means "you would like this person to be your parent, sibling, lover, friend".
I loved her as an awesome villain. Just as I love Dukat.
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Old August 1 2013, 05:49 PM   #84
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I did not like Odo once they ran with the unrequited love and romance plot with Kira. It went on way too long, and it felt out of character. Also odd that during his brief time as a human, he didn't pursue her.

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Old August 1 2013, 10:28 PM   #85
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I'm going to say something really unpopular: Even as a child I thought McCoy was a racist prick. For someone in Starfleet who has to deal with aliens all the time, his behavior towards Spock was totally ridiculous.

I also never liked Kes. . .storywise, there was no real purpose for her character after Voyager's premiere.

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Old August 1 2013, 10:31 PM   #86
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She's in my top 10, I love how nuanced and narcissistic she is. Fantastic actor.

By "loved" I think the question means "you would like this person to be your parent, sibling, lover, friend".
I loved her as an awesome villain. Just as I love Dukat.
It really was fitting and proper they ended up together however briefly. And that they both backstabbed each other.

I always loved her fake niceness and spiteful viciousness. Not personally, but as a character she was a wonderful antagonist.
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Old August 1 2013, 10:34 PM   #87
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. . .I love her because she makes me laugh, she's badass, and has some amazingly sarcastic lines.
And Jeri was wonderfully deadpan on some of the lines: "Fun will now commence."
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Old August 1 2013, 10:46 PM   #88
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Even as a child I thought McCoy was a racist prick.
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Although it is true that McCoy is a popular character and your post is in the right thread. You are unfortunately not alone in this misinterpretation of the character.
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Old August 1 2013, 11:54 PM   #89
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I always loved her fake niceness and spiteful viciousness. Not personally, but as a character she was a wonderful antagonist.
I'm telling you...the Trek equivalent of Dolores Umbridge!
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Old August 2 2013, 05:35 PM   #90
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Even as a child I thought McCoy was a racist prick.
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"I think the surface quarreling [between Spock and McCoy] is the fun of testing each other’s ideas. Very often, people who are very deeply affectionate with each other have a surface fight going all the time. I have dear friends who I would never in a thousand years refer to in any way other than ‘you ugly bastard".- Gene Roddenberry (1975)

Although it is true that McCoy is a popular character and your post is in the right thread. You are unfortunately not alone in this misinterpretation of the character.
If more than one person has this impression, then it is really not much of a "misinterpretation," no matter how Gene Roddenberry tried to retcon it in 1975. And the fact that he had to explain it means that quite a few people had the same "interpretation" even back then. Most people don't call their 'friends' names that could be construed as racist, and the writers of the show even had Spock say that he didn't like it. McCoy did it all of the time. . .for no reason at all. . . and that is the reason that *I* don't like him.

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