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View Poll Results: Rate The Wolverine
Excellent 17 20.99%
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Average 25 30.86%
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Old July 31 2013, 05:30 PM   #91
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I voted Average.

What I liked: Great fight choreography; nice character work from Jackman, Tao Okamoto, and Rila Fukushima; good pacing; nice to see some resolution with Jean, or at least Logan's internal demons manifesting as Jean.

What I didn't like: Pretty much everything else. So much stuff happening without explanation, such a cardboard cutout female villain, so many times I said to myself "Ok, why the hell is that happening?"... and the big bad at the end was spontaneously predictable and disappointing. Really, it's a testament to the three leads that they were able to elevate it from a waste of time into a pretty decent movie through acting chops and chemistry alone.

Oh, and I now have a thing for Tao Okamoto; Sweet Flying Zombie Jesus but that woman is lovely!
Rila's hotter.
Ya know, I think she's sexier, yeah, and more the type I'd go for if I met her irl. But Tao is a straight-up classic beauty, graceful and statuesque.
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Old July 31 2013, 07:31 PM   #92
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Why, when Wolverine is told that they want to suck out his healing ability, does Wolverine say "you can't change me, you can't change what they did to me?" Umm..."they" had nothing to do with his healing ability.
Yeah, in a couple places it seemed like the writers were acting as if Logan's healing was given to him along with the adamantium.
On the other hand, the method used to suppress his healing factor doesn't seem to bear that out, so who knows?

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nice to see some resolution with Jean, or at least Logan's internal demons manifesting as Jean.
I hope it wasn't really Jean. When she said she was all alone, I thought, "What, isn't Scott there with you?"
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Old July 31 2013, 10:25 PM   #93
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"The Wolverine" is far more entertaining and engaging than I expected! It's downright refreshing to see a superhero movie that isn't about destroying massive cities and saving the entire planet. Especially when, while being somewhat "small-scale," the movie still has stakes that matter and characters you can relate to despite their superhuman abilities. The fight scenes are really exciting - not because they're spectacular and expertly choreographed and shot (which they are), but because you're genuinely concerned about the people in them.
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Old July 31 2013, 11:07 PM   #94
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"The Wolverine" is far more entertaining and engaging than I expected! It's downright refreshing to see a superhero movie that isn't about destroying massive cities and saving the entire planet. Especially when, while being somewhat "small-scale," the movie still has stakes that matter and characters you can relate to despite their superhuman abilities. The fight scenes are really exciting - not because they're spectacular and expertly choreographed and shot (which they are), but because you're genuinely concerned about the people in them.
Exactly. I hope they've take a leaf out of this book for the upcoming Captain America movie. You do not need massive explosions and stunts that it would only ever be possible to do with CGI to make a good hero movie.

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nice to see some resolution with Jean, or at least Logan's internal demons manifesting as Jean.
I hope it wasn't really Jean. When she said she was all alone, I thought, "What, isn't Scott there with you?"
Well, if they intended to follow the comics it's entirely possible that the Phoenix in X3 was a psychic projection 'conjured' by Scott's grief and manufactured from atoms held together by her telekinesis on a molecular level, which we know she has by the number of people she 'deconstructs'.

My personal preference is that she's now in a lab occupying a comatose cloned body created by Mr Sinister and Cyclops, captured on the beach after having his mind blown by the Phoenix is right next to her Roll on X4.
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Old August 1 2013, 12:54 AM   #95
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Exactly. I hope they've take a leaf out of this book for the upcoming Captain America movie. You do not need massive explosions and stunts that it would only ever be possible to do with CGI to make a good hero movie.
The funny thing is that today's commercials for the film are still showing a massive explosion that I don't think survived the final cut.
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Old August 1 2013, 02:30 AM   #96
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I really liked the movie. Much better than X3 and Origins.

GOOD:
1) Hugh Jackman is great as always as Logan. I think his characters works much better in solo movies.
2) I thought the Mariko and Yukio actresses were excellent. Badass too.
3) The exotic Japanese settings were cool, especially at night.
4) Something about Wolverine's fighting felt more real compared to previous movies.
5) I loved the final fight between Logan and Silver Samurai. Don't know why some people are complaining about it.
6) Enjoyed Ghost Jean. I'm okay with this probably be the last time we see Famke Janssen's Jean character.

BAD:
1) The Viper character was terrible. She was completely out of place in this movie, and felt like something from X3 or Origins. Also she might have been called Poison Ivy with her similar powers, green outfit, and how over the top she was.
2) All the Japanese males didn't make much of an impression, they were all overshadowed by the Japanese female characters.
3) We never got to see the Wolverine vs huge group of Ninja in the trailers! It was likely cut to keep the PG-13 rating.

AWESOME:
The post credits scene! Wow, it made up for all the flaws of the movie. Glad I wasn't spoiled or ruined it for myself by watching it online.
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Old August 1 2013, 02:37 AM   #97
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There were other women in this movie? I was solely focused on Famke Janssen.

You know at some point down the road there's going to be a "need" for an X-Men movie "reboot" and require the recasting of Wolverine and I think it's going to be as big of a problem as recasting Superman has been since Reeve. Hugh Jackman utterly owns this role and does a fantastic job at it.
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Old August 1 2013, 06:15 AM   #98
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So maybe I missed it..... did Logan get his pre-shot in the head memories back at some point? WWII was clearly before that happened with the bone claws. But he knew where he was kept and other things. For a while I thought he might be playing along knowing it was someone he once knew, but the more the movie went, the more clear it was he had his old memories....
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Old August 1 2013, 08:25 AM   #99
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Exactly. I hope they've take a leaf out of this book for the upcoming Captain America movie. You do not need massive explosions and stunts that it would only ever be possible to do with CGI to make a good hero movie.
The funny thing is that today's commercials for the film are still showing a massive explosion that I don't think survived the final cut.
I vaguely recall one massive explosion... can't quite put my finger on it...
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Old August 1 2013, 09:42 AM   #100
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Why, when Wolverine is told that they want to suck out his healing ability, does Wolverine say "you can't change me, you can't change what they did to me?" Umm..."they" had nothing to do with his healing ability.
I thought he also said 'You can't change what I am.' Which would refer to his innate healing ability, as oppose to the adamantium which was grafted on. Maybe I misremember.

Anyway, I enjoyed it a lot. Not an out and out classic but I much preferred its low-key, almost Bourne/Casino Royale approach to that of Man of Steel and its 'throw the kitchen sink at the screen' route. I actually enjoyed the relative lack of other mutants in the movie, when compared to the gratuitous cameos which Origins threw in at every opportunity. This worked well alongside the more vulnerable, human Logan. Though seeing an invulnerable Logan survive a nuclear blast was also pretty impressive!

I'd agree that the weak point was the more typical superhero movie climax, and I didn't care an awful lot for Viper's Poison Ivy costume and powers. Having said that, seeing Logan have his claws cut off and so forth was quite shocking and unexpected. I also enjoyed the little-known (to me anyway) Japanese cast and thought that the female leads were engaging and strong.

Jackman totally owns the role and, as someone else said, he's going to be very difficult to replace (I'm glad we'll get to see him at least once more in DOFP and I think the guy looks good enough to do at least another film beyond that). He was in simply fantastic shape, not just for his age, but any age, and he captured Wolvie's rage and fury here better than in any other film. I liked his character growth with Jean and Mariko.

As for the ending - Wow. Good idea putting it mid-credits as oppose to the very end. A few casual fans in the showing I attended were walking out and stopped and I even heard a 'what the f*ck?' when Xavier appeared! My friend, who incidentally didn't care for the film, thought that this scene alone made going to the cinema worthwhile!
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Old August 1 2013, 01:36 PM   #101
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I thought he also said 'You can't change what I am.' Which would refer to his innate healing ability, as oppose to the adamantium which was grafted on. Maybe I misremember.
He did. "You can't change what they did to me, what I am."
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Old August 1 2013, 05:21 PM   #102
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As for the ending - Wow. Good idea putting it mid-credits as oppose to the very end. A few casual fans in the showing I attended were walking out and stopped and I even heard a 'what the f*ck?' when Xavier appeared! My friend, who incidentally didn't care for the film, thought that this scene alone made going to the cinema worthwhile!
I'm amazed that, for these movies, Marvel ones especially regardless of studio, people still get up and start to leave the second the credits start. Hellooooo, is this your first Marvel movie?

What was funny in my first showing though was that 90% of the people stayed in their seats. A small group coming down the stairs said amongst themselves "Why is everyone still sitting down?" About that time the sequence started. One goes, "Guess that's why."
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Old August 1 2013, 06:26 PM   #103
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That's why those post credit scenes annoy me. Everyone and his dog knows that two thirds of the audience walk out. Just put that scene at the end of the film and be done with it. What is the purpose of post credit scenes? Subliminal advertisement messages in the end credits?
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Old August 1 2013, 06:43 PM   #104
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The way they are used in these films seems to largely be an addendum to the film.
Either directly or indirectly tied to the story you saw but the credits is a literal way to put some distance from that story and tease or lead into something else.

In this case we know 2yrs has passed, 3 since the event of X3 and Magneto is back and Charles is as well.

Some movies, like Hangover, when they show the photos is to keep you "in" the film. Like the characters you're looking once and deleting(in your case leaving the theater).

Keep in mind movie trailers used to be shown at the end of the credits as well. These stinger scenes for some movies is in a way the updating of that concept I feel.
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Old August 1 2013, 07:01 PM   #105
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I think it's more of a "treat" to those people who sit through the credits to pay some... "respect" (?) for everyone who worked on the movie.
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