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Old July 30 2013, 09:35 AM   #46
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Quark I hate. Not just because he's ferengi he is just an absolutely horrible person. Literally noone likes him, he is never supportive or even happy or anything. And he gets WAAAAAAAY too many episodes and they are all exactly the same.
I agree a lot of the Ferengi focused episodes aren't that good, but in episodes that don't focus on Ferengi Quark's a great character.

How's he a horrible person? Because he breaks the law and cares about profit? He's also harmless, he doesn't kill people and goes easy on people when he sees suffering. And you're also wrong nobody likes him. Dax likes him and everybody else on the station wavers between liking him and loving to hate him.

Nowhere close to a saint, very acquisitive, but he's a positive force in the universe.
The Ferengi and Garak were all that made DS9 tolerable. Quark was a breath of fresh air from the growing sanctimoniousness that permeated the TNG era. Quark was a great outsider looking at the Federation. Sometimes very trenchantly correct about the Federation as in the Root Beer analogy. It was something true about the franchise as a whole and not simply as a plot point in an episode.
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Old July 30 2013, 09:43 AM   #47
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The Ferengi and Garak were all that made DS9 tolerable. Quark was a breath of fresh air from the growing sanctimoniousness that permeated the TNG era. Quark was a great outsider looking at the Federation. Sometimes very trenchantly correct about the Federation as in the Root Beer analogy. It was something true about the franchise as a whole and not simply as a plot point in an episode.
Well I do love Garak. And I guess Quark can make some interesting points about the Federation but the actual character of Quark I just do not like. And personally I think Garak should've been the bigger character and Quark the smaller. I found Garak had an interesting backstory and he could've said all the same stuff Quark did about the Federation.
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Old July 30 2013, 10:16 AM   #48
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Quark is freaking HOT. And he's a breath of fresh air on that station stale with Federation wankery and Klingon farting contests.
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Old July 30 2013, 10:17 AM   #49
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Hey... Janeway is a -great- villain!
You're all jealous.
Pft, one of my favorite characters in Trek is Damar, the reformed villain. Redemption is out there for Janeway if she just admits her wrong doing!
I'm hoping dumps Chak in the next book, will that be enough?
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Old July 30 2013, 12:50 PM   #50
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Quark is freaking HOT. And he's a breath of fresh air on that station stale with Federation wankery and Klingon farting contests.
He's my Trek hero. I'd love a Quark/Dominar Rigel crossover.

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Old July 30 2013, 02:59 PM   #51
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Yeah. Janeway was just there. Kind of like Riker, eh teacake?
Hey... Janeway is a -great- villain!
You're all jealous.
I originally came here for Star Trek. I come back for your caustic comments, teacake! I'm not jealous, I'm a teacaker! Are there teacake fanzines? Sign me up!
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Old July 30 2013, 04:14 PM   #52
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You're all jealous.
Pft, one of my favorite characters in Trek is Damar, the reformed villain. Redemption is out there for Janeway if she just admits her wrong doing!
I'm hoping dumps Chak in the next book, will that be enough?
Don't crush my dreams!!!!

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Old July 30 2013, 04:49 PM   #53
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I don't care much for Kira.
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Old July 30 2013, 05:59 PM   #54
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Except for her role as Lumpy Rutherford's mom on Leave It To Beaver.
I'm 99.8% sure that you're joking, but I'm still going to have to go look it up now.

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Oh no, you weren't joking! So, Majel was like 28 when she played Lumpy's mom, so Gwen must have had Lumpy when she was..what, 13? Well, Fred always struck me as being kind of a creep, this just confirms it.
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Old July 30 2013, 06:05 PM   #55
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Except for her role as Lumpy Rutherford's mom on Leave It To Beaver.
I'm 99.8% sure that you're joking, but I'm still going to have to go look it up now.
True.

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Old July 30 2013, 06:21 PM   #56
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Trip.

For 12 years now, I've been hearing how this clown is a "relatable" character, and "the kind of guy you'd want to have a beer with". I just don't see it.

He started out as a whiny, petulant asshole, and got worse as the show went on.

For my money, Reed is the much more "relatable" character, and FAR more approachable. I'd rather have a whole ship full of Reeds than even one Trip.
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Old July 30 2013, 06:42 PM   #57
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By far my least favorite character is the original Khan. So arrogant and slimy, yuck!

I admit to not being overly fond of Q either, I only liked the episode where he was temporarily mortal.
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Old July 30 2013, 07:14 PM   #58
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Trip.

For 12 years now, I've been hearing how this clown is a "relatable" character, and "the kind of guy you'd want to have a beer with". I just don't see it.

He started out as a whiny, petulant asshole, and got worse as the show went on.

For my money, Reed is the much more "relatable" character, and FAR more approachable. I'd rather have a whole ship full of Reeds than even one Trip.
In that case, you must have loved the ENT series finale!
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Old July 30 2013, 08:03 PM   #59
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Trip.

For 12 years now, I've been hearing how this clown is a "relatable" character, and "the kind of guy you'd want to have a beer with". I just don't see it.

He started out as a whiny, petulant asshole, and got worse as the show went on.

For my money, Reed is the much more "relatable" character, and FAR more approachable. I'd rather have a whole ship full of Reeds than even one Trip.
In that case, you must have loved the ENT series finale!
Ironically enough, no. Even I felt the moron deserved better than that.

But, again ironically, his committing suicide that way WAS perfectly in character with how he always shot off his mouth, and NEVER thought anything through.
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Old July 30 2013, 08:45 PM   #60
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Hey... Janeway is a -great- villain!
You're all jealous.
I originally came here for Star Trek. I come back for your caustic comments, teacake! I'm not jealous, I'm a teacaker! Are there teacake fanzines? Sign me up!
Don't be a teahater.
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