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Old July 27 2013, 09:46 AM   #256
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It was during the middle of Civil War that I finally bailed on Marvel (after gritting my teeth and hanging on for several years). I never heard about Black Bolt's harem.
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Old July 27 2013, 11:44 AM   #257
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Of all the gazillions of superheroes out there, the Fantastic Four are definitely the silliest ones. When in a live action film a human turns into a rubber band that can wrap around the Millenium Wheel, I'm out.
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Old July 27 2013, 07:40 PM   #258
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It was during the middle of Civil War that I finally bailed on Marvel (after gritting my teeth and hanging on for several years). I never heard about Black Bolt's harem.
Civil War was when I was starting to be able to get into regular comic reading (its still my favorite Marvel event).

Black Bolt's harem was created when a bunch of "Inhumans" from other species just kind of appeared. Black Bolt had just came back to life (in a confusing and not really explained way) and he took one of each species as an extra wife. It was basically a giant FU to Medusa and made little sense (although BB having a bipedal horse wife was kind of funny). He had no reason to take extra wives, he didn't get some kind of big advantage or something. But, it looks like they're just pretending that the Black bolt harem don't exist, and I'm really glad for that.
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Old July 27 2013, 07:54 PM   #259
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I stopped reading Marvel right around Maximum Clonage. I've only just recently started reading Spider-Man again with the whole Doc Ock story line.
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Old July 28 2013, 09:38 AM   #260
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^^ I'm vaguely tempted to join their online service to sample the current stuff and keep up. After all, I was a fan since the mid 60s. But when I hear about storylines and see art samples, I'm afraid the experience may be too painful.

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Civil War was when I was starting to be able to get into regular comic reading (its still my favorite Marvel event).
Civil War was the quintessence of everything I hate about current pop culture fashion. All the characters had become corrupt and unlikeable, the interpersonal conflicts were forced and inconsistent, they were killing people off simply for the alleged shock value. And the writing and art were bad.

Black Bolt's harem was created when a bunch of "Inhumans" from other species just kind of appeared. Black Bolt had just came back to life (in a confusing and not really explained way) and he took one of each species as an extra wife. It was basically a giant FU to Medusa and made little sense (although BB having a bipedal horse wife was kind of funny). He had no reason to take extra wives, he didn't get some kind of big advantage or something. But, it looks like they're just pretending that the Black bolt harem don't exist, and I'm really glad for that.
It's an interesting idea, in and of itself; it's a good way to show that we're dealing with an alien culture with different social norms (and an especially amusing way to do it, given the eternal confusion and discomfort with sexuality among the common people). But it's inconsistent with Black Bolt's characterization and history-- not that the current batch of creators cares about stuff like that.
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Old July 28 2013, 09:51 AM   #261
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Of all the gazillions of superheroes out there, the Fantastic Four are definitely the silliest ones.
Oh boy, not even close.
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Old July 28 2013, 10:26 AM   #262
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^From above link:
Fox creative consultant Mark Millar says the film will contain "stuff you haven't seen in a superhero movie before."
Wouldn't it be nice if that means the movie will focus more on the FF as celebrity explorers/adventurers? That would be a nice variation on the superhero-movie formula.
Seeing as it's made by Fox will that mean good actor choices for the roles intended, acting ability and a good story?
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Old July 28 2013, 03:00 PM   #263
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^Not sure what being made by 20th Century Fox has to do with it. Fox produced the previous, weak Fantastic Four movies, not to mention Daredevil and Elektra, but it also produced all of the X-Men movies, ranging from the very best to the very worst. I don't think you can generalize about the quality of any studio's overall output.
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Old August 4 2013, 09:41 AM   #264
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Rumour went round yesterday that actor Miles Teller was the front-runner for Reed but apparently the director has already debunked it:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107338
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Fantastic Four to take place in X-Men movie universe.
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Old August 19 2013, 04:19 PM   #266
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Oh so we'll probably see Hugh Jackman joining the Fantastic Five.
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Old August 19 2013, 04:39 PM   #267
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Wolverine vs. The Thing. You know you want to see it happen.
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Old August 19 2013, 05:26 PM   #268
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Wolverine vs. The Thing. You know you want to see it happen.
It's facepalmin' time.
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Old August 19 2013, 06:15 PM   #269
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Hopefully the Thing will be done with mocap and CGI this time.

And hopefully the writing will actually be better, of course.
By 'better', you mean dark, and as for the main characters, they will be dysfunctional as heck.

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I wish they'd cast age appropriate actors. Wasn't Johnny Storm, like 16 or something when became the Torch? I know they often play younger but it's rarely believable. A 28 year old high school attending Spider-Man is the worst example of this.
Johnny Storm had graduated high school and was in his mid-to late teens/early 20s by the time the events that changed him into the Torch had happened.

I'll agree with you about the casting of age appropriate actors, though-one of the things about Supergirl that bugs me is that Warners has blown it repeatedly when it comes to getting a film with her off of the ground, and has missed chances to cast a teenager as Supergirl (she should be at least 15-16 years of age!) All of the good actresses that could have played her (in particular, one young lady and her sister that's done great work) have all aged out of the role or won't able to be in said movie in time (although they can always launch a casting call for one). Anyhoo, Johnny's cast, and that's all that matters.

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I am entirely serious. And I agree that it was a piece of crap. But more important that what it did wrong, is what it did right. The character dynamics and interactions between Reed and Sue and Reed and Doom, for one. The Doom in Corman's movie is insanely, gloriously over the top, as Doom should be. Story's Doom was just another corrupt businessman. Corman's FF felt more like a family story than, er, Story's. Story got most of that important stuff wrong.
Story and the scrpitwriters didn't get anything wrong other than people didn't like it for some reason (Johnny and Ben still bicker, Ben's a hotheaded angry guy, Johnny's a show-off-all just like in the original comics. And having Doom be a businessman like Lex Luthor was a great touch-there's only so much one can get out of the 'evil scientist who wants to take over the world' trope.

As well, having Sue be a scientist was a similar masterstroke that made the character a hell of a lot more better and relevant than her being an actress who just decides to tag along on her boyfriend's/fiancé's spaceflight (although that's taken from Ultimate Fantastic Four, and the Sue being the fiancée of Doom is a shout-out to her having a secret relationship with him in the comics of the time.)

All told, for me, I hope that this movie's as good as the Story movies.

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Johnny Storm was 16 when he became the Torch.
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