RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,432
Posts: 5,507,164
Members: 25,131
Currently online: 570
Newest member: Robert100a

TrekToday headlines

Retro Review: The Emperor’s New Cloak
By: Michelle on Dec 20

Star Trek Opera
By: T'Bonz on Dec 19

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18

IDW Publishing March 2015 Comics
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Paramount Star Trek 3 Expectations
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Star Trek #39 Sneak Peek
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Star Trek 3 Potential Director Shortlist
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Official Starships Collection Update
By: T'Bonz on Dec 15

Retro Review: Prodigal Daughter
By: Michelle on Dec 13

Sindicate Lager To Debut In The US Next Week
By: T'Bonz on Dec 12


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Trek Literature

Trek Literature "...Good words. That's where ideas begin."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 25 2013, 08:43 PM   #1
BritishSeaPower
Commander
 
BritishSeaPower's Avatar
 
Location: New Jersey
View BritishSeaPower's Twitter Profile
Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

Hey, so I'm posting this here for a number of a reasons, the main one being that I've not seen this before for any eBook and the second that I've noticed myself and others have complained about major issues with some of the earlier Trek eBooks. (I believe A Stitch in Time was the most egregious according to the board. Though I forget which one now, one of the Post-Insurrection books had no paragraph breaks.)

Anyway, this morning I got an e-mail from Amazon alerting me that there was an update available for Voyager: The Farther Shore. The thing that caught my eye was a two point bullet list stating the reason for the update: "Typos have been corrected and Significant editorial changes have been made."

Significant editorial changes strikes me as a rather large blanket. I don't recall any major issues. Perhaps no chapter call outs or something minor. Still, it is curious. Anyone get a similar note about other books? Or perhaps know what exactly changed in Farther Shore?
__________________
"I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren't there." - The Eighth Doctor
BritishSeaPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 25 2013, 08:51 PM   #2
Zedferret
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

I expect editorial changes refer to fixing the typesetting, justification or layout rather than story editorial.
Zedferret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 25 2013, 09:25 PM   #3
Thrawn
Rear Admiral
 
Thrawn's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

I've seen "updates" for a couple of other titles, but not that one. Either way, it seems to be becoming fairly standard practice.

If games can have patches and movies can get director's cuts, I don't see any reason to freak out about this, though I suppose it would be nice if they were a little clearer on what's changing.
__________________
The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first.
Thrawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 25 2013, 10:00 PM   #4
BritishSeaPower
Commander
 
BritishSeaPower's Avatar
 
Location: New Jersey
View BritishSeaPower's Twitter Profile
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

I'm not so much alarmed or even worried about massive changes to content, more curious as to what changed. (If it were literally any other book I might even give it a go. ;-) )

You're right in comparing them to Game patches, it just cropped up as weird. Weirder still that I'd get an e-mail about it.
__________________
"I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren't there." - The Eighth Doctor
BritishSeaPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2013, 12:57 AM   #5
bfollowell
Commander
 
bfollowell's Avatar
 
Location: Evansville, IN, USA
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

I pointed this out back in November, generally, not this ebook specifically (see my link below). It seems to have started sometime last fall. BritishSeaPower, you were part of the discussion way back then so, at least then, you were aware that these changes were being made, even if you weren't aware of the extent of the changes.

Most of the changes seem positive but some are really strange, ex. newer versions of ebooks having a title page for a cover where an older version had a real cover image for a cover. The text formatting has been really cleaned up in most of them though. I can't say that I've seen any book published after 2007 that has been updated though. So far it's only pre-2007 titles.

- Byron

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=193105
__________________
Underachievement - Because soaring with the eagles requires so much more effort.
bfollowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2013, 04:38 PM   #6
BritishSeaPower
Commander
 
BritishSeaPower's Avatar
 
Location: New Jersey
View BritishSeaPower's Twitter Profile
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

Huh, I completely forgot about that thread, bfollowell. I looked through the book and it seems that the improvements are the "Sign Up for Pocket" pages, a better cover image and chapter breaks that correspond to the print pages.
__________________
"I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren't there." - The Eighth Doctor
BritishSeaPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2013, 10:38 PM   #7
CaffeineAddict
Lieutenant Commander
 
Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

I found the kindle version of Stone and Anvil had about three chapters in the middle in the wrong order. Really confuses the story. I had to compare it to a print copy to figure out what should be where. I reported it to Amazon, who said they'd notify the publisher. That was about six months ago, and so far no update.

Edit: Doh. Its After the Fall, not Stone and Anvil. I'll actually get a title right some day soon.

Last edited by CaffeineAddict; July 27 2013 at 08:08 AM.
CaffeineAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26 2013, 11:58 PM   #8
Thrawn
Rear Admiral
 
Thrawn's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

Huh. Just in case I ever happen to read that on Kindle, do you happen to remember which chapters?
__________________
The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first.
Thrawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 01:28 AM   #9
bfollowell
Commander
 
bfollowell's Avatar
 
Location: Evansville, IN, USA
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

CaffeineAddict wrote: View Post
I found the kindle version of Stone and Anvil had about three chapters in the middle in the wrong order. Really confuses the story. I had to compare it to a print copy to figure out what should be where. I reported it to Amazon, who said they'd notify the publisher. That was about six months ago, and so far no update.
Well, it looks as if Stone & Anvil has already been updated as part of the program I mentioned back last November. So, either the changes you mentioned have already been made or they were missed and are still there in a cleaned-up prettier version. The version you mentioned that had the chapters out-of-sequence, did it have the "Thank you for purchasing this Pocket Books ebook - Signup Here" page in the front and back of the book? If not, you were definitely reading and older version and a newer one is available. You may just try re-downloading to see if they send the newer version.

- Byron
__________________
Underachievement - Because soaring with the eagles requires so much more effort.
bfollowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 08:07 AM   #10
CaffeineAddict
Lieutenant Commander
 
Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

Thrawn wrote: View Post
Huh. Just in case I ever happen to read that on Kindle, do you happen to remember which chapters?
Just checked the email i sent amazon about it, and I'm mis-remembering titles again (second time this week) - it was After the Fall, not Stone and Anvil.
Either way, pages 219-237 have been moved to after the subsequent chapter (the chapters aren't numbered in that book).
CaffeineAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 08:12 AM   #11
CaffeineAddict
Lieutenant Commander
 
Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

bfollowell wrote: View Post
CaffeineAddict wrote: View Post
I found the kindle version of Stone and Anvil had about three chapters in the middle in the wrong order. Really confuses the story. I had to compare it to a print copy to figure out what should be where. I reported it to Amazon, who said they'd notify the publisher. That was about six months ago, and so far no update.
Well, it looks as if Stone & Anvil has already been updated as part of the program I mentioned back last November. So, either the changes you mentioned have already been made or they were missed and are still there in a cleaned-up prettier version. The version you mentioned that had the chapters out-of-sequence, did it have the "Thank you for purchasing this Pocket Books ebook - Signup Here" page in the front and back of the book? If not, you were definitely reading and older version and a newer one is available. You may just try re-downloading to see if they send the newer version.

- Byron
Turns out it was After the Fall, not Stone and Anvil, but yes, it does have the pocket ebooks "sign up here" pages.
I've tried re-downloading the kindle book, and the issue is still there.
CaffeineAddict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 02:35 PM   #12
Data's Cat
Lieutenant
 
Data's Cat's Avatar
 
Location: Texas
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

BritishSeaPower wrote: View Post
Hey, so I'm posting this here for a number of a reasons, the main one being that I've not seen this before for any eBook
<snip>
Anyone get a similar note about other books?
I send out a daily newsletter for free and bargain Kindle books to a rather large mailing list, and due to all those free books (and a few paid ones), I have almost 4000 Kindle books (no clue when I'll EVER be able to read them all).

I'm also in some of the authors' beta groups- they send me books to read before they are published, and ask for feedback.

Updates happen very frequently. They are usually for correcting typos, and grammatical and formatting errors.
__________________
Just call me Spot.
Data's Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 03:52 PM   #13
Thrawn
Rear Admiral
 
Thrawn's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

CaffeineAddict wrote: View Post
Thrawn wrote: View Post
Huh. Just in case I ever happen to read that on Kindle, do you happen to remember which chapters?
Just checked the email i sent amazon about it, and I'm mis-remembering titles again (second time this week) - it was After the Fall, not Stone and Anvil.
Either way, pages 219-237 have been moved to after the subsequent chapter (the chapters aren't numbered in that book).
I wonder - would it be useful to have a thread that tracks eBook errors in Trek books? Off the top of my head, the first DTI book doesn't display italics, and Distant Shores is missing two stories.
__________________
The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first.
Thrawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 04:41 PM   #14
JWolf
Commodore
 
JWolf's Avatar
 
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

The more recent Trek eBooks have been quite good in terms of not having errors. I'm glad someone at S&S decided it was time to stop the crap and make proper eBooks.
__________________
Jon
JWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27 2013, 08:36 PM   #15
Csalem
Commodore
 
Csalem's Avatar
 
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Re: Trek Kindle eBook "Update"

I got Slings and Arrows book 6 on Kindle recently and had a terrible formating issue with italic. There was no space between previous word and italicised word.
__________________
Csalem
Csalem is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:30 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.