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Old July 26 2013, 09:24 PM   #76
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Re: So did Worf's Change of Heart cost him command of the Enterprise?

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"but the Ba'ku settled on that world BEFORE the Federation was founded" - if this were true, it would not be federation space, MacLeod.
And that's where you're wrong (again). A planet need not be colonized by Federation citizens for it to be within Federation territory. I suspect this concept is too complicated for you (as many other things seem to be), but that's your problem. I'll leave you to your perpetual masturbation.

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^Following up on my previous post, there's dialogue in Insurrection itself that establishes the Ba'ku settled on the planet more than three hundred years before the film's events took place. Edit, how does it feel to live a life of ignorance?

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This, and that.
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Old July 26 2013, 09:29 PM   #77
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Re: So did Worf's Change of Heart cost him command of the Enterprise?

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What if Kira got command of the Enterprise? Who's to say that she has to live on DS9 for the rest of her career. Surely at some point after the war Bajor would have joined the Federation and at least part of the Bajoran military absorbed into Starfleet...
If you've seen any of the DS9 Relaunch novels, the Bajoran militia was absorbed into Starfleet when Bajor was accepted into the Federation. Kira was granted a Starfleet commission and promoted to captain. She ultimately resigned from Starfleet to pursue a career in the Vedek Assembly before disappearing during the events of Typhon Pact: Raise the Dawn.

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Old July 26 2013, 09:37 PM   #78
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Re: So did Worf's Change of Heart cost him command of the Enterprise?

with so many dead form the Dominion war, he might redeem himself, I mean Riker got to stay in SF even after the Peagus ...
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Old July 26 2013, 09:51 PM   #79
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with so many dead form the Dominion war, he might redeem himself, I mean Riker got to stay in SF even after the Peagus ...
The Pegasus was one incident. And as Riker's overall service record was exceptional, it's likely that Starfleet decided they were better off keeping him than not.

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Old July 27 2013, 07:55 AM   #80
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Re: So did Worf's Change of Heart cost him command of the Enterprise?

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"but the Ba'ku settled on that world BEFORE the Federation was founded" - if this were true, it would not be federation space, MacLeod.
And that's where you're wrong (again). A planet need not be colonized by Federation citizens for it to be within Federation territory. I suspect this concept is too complicated for you (as many other things seem to be), but that's your problem. I'll leave you to your perpetual masturbation.

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^Following up on my previous post, there's dialogue in Insurrection itself that establishes the Ba'ku settled on the planet more than three hundred years before the film's events took place. Edit, how does it feel to live a life of ignorance?

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If superiority complexes would hurt, you would be in agony right now, Sran.

Also - you obviously need to watch the movie (you have no idea what's established there).
And read the posts you're responding to. For the self-appointed grammar nazi you are, you fail to even do this (not to mention, getting confused about the semantics of simple words).
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Old July 27 2013, 10:57 AM   #81
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Re: So did Worf's Change of Heart cost him command of the Enterprise?

Well the line is something like the "That was three hundred and nine years ago" at least in relation to when they left their homeworld. Which would place it aroud 2066 almost a full century before the Federaton was founded. Now I guess they could have wandered the galaxy for those 95 years. But there is nothing to suggest that the Ba'ku normally age any differently than humans
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Old July 28 2013, 04:54 AM   #82
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The Federation had no claim for eminant to a planet that was already inhabiated, calimed by another race before the Federation was estalished.
That presumes that the Federation recognizes the ring planet as the Baku's private property. The Baku are relatively few in number, and they are not indigenious to that planet. The Federation could easily not view them as the planet's "owners."

Exercising eminant domain might not have been seen as necessary.

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... the briar patch, before belonging to the federation, belonged to one of its member species or to someone else who gave it to the federation by treaty/etc ...
According to ENT (augment arc) when the Baku arrived the briar patch and it's contents was Romulan territory. Later it somehow passed into the hands of the Klingons (per DS9). Later still it passed into the hands of the Federation.

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