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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

View Poll Results: What do you think of Riker?
He is amazing and respected. 24 45.28%
He is tolerable. 7 13.21%
He is just ok, but could be better 10 18.87%
He is a Jerk! 12 22.64%
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Old July 18 2013, 05:51 AM   #46
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Re: William T. Riker - Character Assassination or Praise

That's a what if scenario we've certainly thought of before. The trouble with BOBW Part 1 (if I'm being subjective about it) is that it really does write itself into a corner. That scenario is the obvious outcome of that cliffhanger episode, so in a lot of ways the fact that it doesn't happen can't help but feel a little unsatisfying.
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Old July 18 2013, 12:54 PM   #47
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Re: William T. Riker - Character Assassination or Praise

I can't really see Riker as being Captain of the Enterprise, another ship definately but I think Starfleet Command would want a more experienced CO in the centre seat. The ships he was offered (the Aries and Melbourne) were both smaller and more suitable for a first command.

Had Riker left the ship he may have taken others on the crew with him (Worf was ready and willing to jump ship when Riker was offered the Aries), so TNG could have had an episode each season that was based on Riker's ship--in addition to being recurring characters the rest of the time.
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Old July 19 2013, 01:49 AM   #48
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Re: William T. Riker - Character Assassination or Praise

Riker didn't want to be stuck with a cheesy, thrown-together guest-ship-of-the-week bridge.
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Old July 19 2013, 01:59 AM   #49
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Riker didn't want to be stuck with a cheesy, thrown-together guest-ship-of-the-week bridge.
Good one! In all seriousness, I think Riker stayed on the Enterprise because the writers and producers weren't comfortable taking the risk of writing him off the ship for any length of time. The Next Generation was the first spin-off of TOS, and the TOS films went out of their way to keep the Enterprise crew together as much as possible (before finally giving Sulu his own ship). The idea that a significant character could be written out of the series or have his role drastically altered wasn't something that had been explored to that point.

DS9 was the first Trek series to push the boundaries of fans' comfort zones with characters. The crew lost their station at the end of the fifth season and didn't regain it until several episodes into the following year. A regular character and several recurring characters were killed during the show's run. A main cast member from another series was added to the show before the fourth season. Had TNG happened after DS9, it's possible we'd have seen Riker booted from Enterprise with Thomas eventually replacing him. But that wasn't going to happen with TNG being only the second Trek series.

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Old July 23 2013, 07:07 AM   #50
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By the end of the year, Riker could have been completely on his own, and Shelby would have been established as Picard's new right hand. I know that Roddenberry wanted to paint a picture of harmony and cohesion, but he could have done that without having Riker rooted in place for so many years.
That would have been great, Shelby would have been the female Number One that Gene had always wanted, but was forced by NBC to abandon after "The Cage".
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Old July 23 2013, 04:10 PM   #51
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By the end of the year, Riker could have been completely on his own, and Shelby would have been established as Picard's new right hand. I know that Roddenberry wanted to paint a picture of harmony and cohesion, but he could have done that without having Riker rooted in place for so many years.
That would have been great, Shelby would have been the female Number One that Gene had always wanted, but was forced by NBC to abandon after "The Cage".
NBC didn't want Roddenberry to abandon the female first officer, they wanted him to abandon having his mistress playing the part.
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BillJ wrote: View Post
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By the end of the year, Riker could have been completely on his own, and Shelby would have been established as Picard's new right hand. I know that Roddenberry wanted to paint a picture of harmony and cohesion, but he could have done that without having Riker rooted in place for so many years.
That would have been great, Shelby would have been the female Number One that Gene had always wanted, but was forced by NBC to abandon after "The Cage".
NBC didn't want Roddenberry to abandon the female first officer, they wanted him to abandon having his mistress playing the part.
That depends on which memoir you choose to believe, but the end result was the same, regardless.
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