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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old July 23 2013, 04:36 AM   #31
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5. What the JJ-bashers don't seem to ever get is that it doesn't matter whether anyone personally likes him or not, or likes his movies or not. He and his crew were personally responsible for bringing Star Trek back into popularity again no matter what kind of intelligent or non-intelligent story his writers came up with. Thanks to these films, there's the best chance ever that CBS will bring back Trek to television one day. That would have never happened without these movies, or at least not in quite some time.
Yes. That's what I think EVERYONE should realize.
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Old July 23 2013, 04:45 AM   #32
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...I want someone who can write an intelligent story, something that makes you think.
As mentioned upthread, Abrams didn't write either Trek movie, but, as it seems few here are aware, he's not an untalented writer, having written Regarding Henry and Super 8, amongst a lot of other stuff.
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Old July 23 2013, 04:59 AM   #33
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Don't cloud the issue facts. This is the internet!!
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Old July 23 2013, 05:09 AM   #34
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This is foreshadowing, damnit!!

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Old July 23 2013, 05:25 AM   #35
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Old July 23 2013, 05:28 AM   #36
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It's not true.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movie...ucasfilm-says/
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Old July 23 2013, 05:46 AM   #37
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Who's asking you to do that?
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The poster I was quoting. He said that people who dislike the current popcorn action movie direction should just be grateful it's making money. Which strikes me as a weird attitude. I'd rather the last movie tanked at the box office, yet was thought provoking and interesting.
Grateful it revived a dead franchise. Made it relevant again.
Just this one time I'm NOT gonna read the whole thread first.

Made it RELEVANT again?

The relevancy of the stories doesn't sink or stand on somebody getting some new juice out of exploiting the name.

What's relevant is that a good chunk of TOS told stories that will ALWAYS be relevant, REGARDLESS of whether it is trendy or popular to be into Trek at any given time.
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Old July 23 2013, 05:51 AM   #38
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The poster I was quoting. He said that people who dislike the current popcorn action movie direction should just be grateful it's making money. Which strikes me as a weird attitude. I'd rather the last movie tanked at the box office, yet was thought provoking and interesting.
Grateful it revived a dead franchise. Made it relevant again.
Just this one time I'm NOT gonna read the whole thread first.

Made it RELEVANT again?

The relevancy of the stories doesn't sink or stand on somebody getting some new juice out of exploiting the name.

What's relevant is that a good chunk of TOS told stories that will ALWAYS be relevant, REGARDLESS of whether it is trendy or popular to be into Trek at any given time.
Made the Franchise relevant. As in an on going concern that people are interested in.
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Old July 23 2013, 06:03 AM   #39
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Christ. I am so sick of this anti-Abrams stuff. Will you guys just get over it? The man and his team successfully revived a DEAD franchise.

If he does or doesn't direct the next Star Wars and does return to Trek, or whatever happens, we should be thanking him for making Star Trek globally popular again. Making a movie is not easy. Making a big budget movie is not easy. Plenty of people do it and the movies flop. Abrams delivered two qualified successes. Can we just be grateful and stop with the "ZOMG this is TERRIBLE!" stuff?
+1

So childish. They were either going to re-boot Trek as an action sci-fi franchise or NOT AT ALL.

This BS about bringing it back as 'thoughtful sci-fi' (whatever that is) in the 21st century is just idiotic.

Looking at the big-budget flops this summer indicates how hard it is to know exactly what audiences will pay $10-$15 bucks for, but even so--- but for sure IT ISN'T A TREK that puts action in the back seat and tries to explore sci-fi concepts and charactor interaction (which they do a pretty decent job of anyway in the Abrams movies between action set-pieces.)

If you want that from Trek you have 28 seasons of TV TREK with scores of episodes like that AND we'll likely see Trek return to tv someday and we'll get back to a more even balence between action and exploration/character stuff/pure sci-fi. Until then enjoy the action trek movies or watch the tv shows and wait for a tv return.

Don't knock Abrams for making hit movies---the studios give him hundreds of millions of their dollars and he makes them money and solid movies and people mock that--like it's an easy thing to do.
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Old July 23 2013, 06:10 AM   #40
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Grateful it revived a dead franchise. Made it relevant again.
Just this one time I'm NOT gonna read the whole thread first.

Made it RELEVANT again?

The relevancy of the stories doesn't sink or stand on somebody getting some new juice out of exploiting the name.

What's relevant is that a good chunk of TOS told stories that will ALWAYS be relevant, REGARDLESS of whether it is trendy or popular to be into Trek at any given time.
Made the Franchise relevant. As in an on going concern that people are interested in.
Thank you. That is obviously what I meant. Dunno why the other guy got all hot and bothered.
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Old July 23 2013, 06:12 AM   #41
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I do, but I can't really say.
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Old July 23 2013, 06:12 AM   #42
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You want "Thoughtful Sci-Fi"? Go read a book.

Give me more Trek like STiD please.

And JJ's not leaving SW. It's his dream job.
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Old July 23 2013, 06:13 AM   #43
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Old July 23 2013, 07:18 AM   #44
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You want "Thoughtful Sci-Fi"? Go read a book.
Exactly.
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Old July 23 2013, 10:11 AM   #45
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So what you are saying is that I should be thanking him even though I didn't really like his movies, because they "made money"
Yes, at least if you value Star Trek over your own considerations. When Trek came back in 2009, I considered its success more important than me liking it, because it would keep the franchise alive, and increased the odds of me liking Trek chapters in the future.

Relevant yes, in a nice mainstream popcorn-action movie way.
We've been through this before: t'was always so.

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I'm British, and the idea of that vile toad setting foot on the same island as me makes me feel physically sick, but I think he's a pretty perfect fit for Star Wars so can't see him leaving the project.
Talk about an overreaction. It's not like he's a serial killer or something.
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