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Old July 18 2013, 03:16 AM   #361
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Old July 18 2013, 03:17 AM   #362
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I love how "Geneo" disappeared the instant someone told him/her that George Takei is gay.

He's probably crying into his pillow now that he's found out his favourite character has "the gay".

No one tell him Quinto is gay, he might not be able to take it...
I knew George was gay LONG ago, that is why I quit watching the old movies. When Quinto said he was gay I'll not watch another movie with him in it again.
Why? Afraid "the gay" will rub off on you? You better quit watching pretty much anything, because its likely that someone gay is involved in pretty much every movie/TV show.

All I care about is if the actor/actress can act.
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Old July 18 2013, 03:24 AM   #363
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I love how "Geneo" disappeared the instant someone told him/her that George Takei is gay.

He's probably crying into his pillow now that he's found out his favourite character has "the gay".

No one tell him Quinto is gay, he might not be able to take it...
I knew George was gay LONG ago, that is why I quit watching the old movies. When Quinto said he was gay I'll not watch another movie with him in it again.
What are you going to do with all those Liberace records and Gomer Pyle DVDs?
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Old July 18 2013, 03:56 AM   #364
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Nerys Myk wrote: View Post
geneo wrote: View Post
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I love how "Geneo" disappeared the instant someone told him/her that George Takei is gay.

He's probably crying into his pillow now that he's found out his favourite character has "the gay".

No one tell him Quinto is gay, he might not be able to take it...
I knew George was gay LONG ago, that is why I quit watching the old movies. When Quinto said he was gay I'll not watch another movie with him in it again.
What are you going to do with all those Liberace records and Gomer Pyle DVDs?
Or classic Elton John records?
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Old July 18 2013, 04:24 AM   #365
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Okay, all - I think that geneo's little pet hate has had quite enough time on the soapbox. Let's make the thread about something else, beginning right now.

Star Trek III... and speculate!
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Old July 18 2013, 04:53 AM   #366
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I think it will be about Klingons. May or may not involve war with same.
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Old July 18 2013, 11:04 AM   #367
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Hmmm... in-between Star Trek 09 and Into Darkness, I do vaguely recall remarks (I won't say quotes, because that would imply that I remember verbatim what was said, and I don't) from either Lindelof, Abrams, or Orci (can't remember who it was exactly) in which the essence was, that Into Darkness might not have a villain, as such - rather, the obstacle / challenge being space itself... ???

With Into Darkness now been and gone, it doesn't really fit with what I'm trying very badly to describe... so I'm wondering if it could shed any light on the next movie (perhaps)...

Sorry for an absolutely vague suggestion of a obscure (and unreferenced remark)... I distinctly remember being rather intrigued by the comments, so my apologies for not actually bringing to the table a solid quotable quote...

Does anyone remember hearing anything like this?

If so, I'd appreciate any help you could provide, on shedding light on this rather hazy recollection of mine... otherwise I do believe I might have been recalling conversations that never actually occurred!
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Old July 18 2013, 12:21 PM   #368
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Your recollections are pretty close to the mark, if I myself recall correctly.
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Old July 18 2013, 12:23 PM   #369
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I remember it too - something about space itself or nature being the enemy. It never materialized in the last film (unless they were referring to the gravity failing when the Enterprise fell to Earth?), let's hope we get something like that in 2016.
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Old July 18 2013, 03:58 PM   #370
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If it is space itself or something like a force of nature, could it be V'ger? Or a Queen-less Borg?
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Old July 18 2013, 04:09 PM   #371
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I think those remarks about space/nature being the enemy were simply intended as a misdirection aimed at the fans, courtesy of JJ's obsession with secrecy and surprise. Not unlike when Karl Urban "accidentally" let it slip that Cumberbatch was playing Gary Mitchell in STID. Just another red herring.

War with the Klingons. Tragic romance with Carol Marcus (in the end she takes the kid and leaves). Maybe the return of Khan and/or repercussions from Kirk's blood transfusion from Khan. That's my call.
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Old July 18 2013, 04:22 PM   #372
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rather, the obstacle / challenge being space itself... ???
They meant the blank space on a notebook page labeled "ORIGINAL IDEAS".
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Old July 18 2013, 04:32 PM   #373
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Old July 18 2013, 07:15 PM   #374
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Hmmm... in-between Star Trek 09 and Into Darkness, I do vaguely recall remarks (I won't say quotes, because that would imply that I remember verbatim what was said, and I don't) from either Lindelof, Abrams, or Orci (can't remember who it was exactly) in which the essence was, that Into Darkness might not have a villain, as such - rather, the obstacle / challenge being space itself... ???

With Into Darkness now been and gone, it doesn't really fit with what I'm trying very badly to describe... so I'm wondering if it could shed any light on the next movie (perhaps)...

Sorry for an absolutely vague suggestion of a obscure (and unreferenced remark)... I distinctly remember being rather intrigued by the comments, so my apologies for not actually bringing to the table a solid quotable quote...

Does anyone remember hearing anything like this?

If so, I'd appreciate any help you could provide, on shedding light on this rather hazy recollection of mine... otherwise I do believe I might have been recalling conversations that never actually occurred!
I remember it also, and I think the comments might have come from Orci. However, this would have been very early on in the process of developing a story for what eventually became Star Trek Into Darkness, and as I recall it the notion of obstacle/challenge being a natural phenomenon/space itself (as opposed to a villain character) was only one of a number of possible story ideas being kicked around at the time. I didn't (and still don't) get any sense of an intent to deceive or misdirect, just that they ultimately ended up going with character villain(s) instead.
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Old July 18 2013, 07:28 PM   #375
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He also got a list of possible villains, where Khan was not included, and stated that one of those was definitely in it.

Either they completely rewrote the script on a daily basis, or he is just a lying dude. I don't get why he would feel the need to play those kind of games with fans.
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