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Old July 18 2013, 01:05 AM   #151
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Have you seen the picture?

http://www.people.com/people/archive...122086,00.html

No one wears pants that tight when going to see their Mother for dinner.

First, you can't eat. Your seams can't take the stress.

Second, she keeps asking if your sperms are okay under all that pressure.
Oh... my lord...

At least he got some attention though lol.
Sorry, his 15 minutes of fame(as opposed to his seven seasons of shame) lost us Kes instead of him. He was originally supposed to die from the 8472 tentacle virus but had this great pr article published between parts 1 and 2 of Scorpion.
Is that a joke or truth?
Were they really going to let Garrett Wang go???
I'm still a little behind on the goings-ons of the cast back then (I was a kid!).

I'm one of the few that likes Harry. I'm not saying he had any kind of fantastic character arc going on or anything cause he didn't. Just a nice guy. I don't see any real reason to remove him necessarily. His character doesn't make for too much thrilling storytelling, but I'll blame that on the writers. :P

That said...NOT too thrilled about Harry wearing those tight leather pants. Uh uh... Not saying he isn't good looking. He is definitely good looking! But TIGHT LEATHER PANTS? No.......
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Old July 18 2013, 01:15 AM   #152
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Speaking of 7... how weird must it feel (as an actress) to be referred to as a number. 7 shares that distinction with the cylons on nuBSG and a character from the late 1960's or early 1970's Peanuts comic strip. I think her name was "5".
Don't forget "99" back on the original Get Smart.
Or this guy...

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Old July 18 2013, 01:30 AM   #153
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Hasn't this being commented on for many years now? And while actor's egos clashing is stressful and ugly, I think people are going over the top and we're better off not rubbing old sore spots (even if Jeri liked her role otherwise and Mulgrew was hopefully professional enough 90% of the other time). And Carey Fisher dated George Lucas, Patrick Stewart dated another writer/producer on TNG, and David Tennant has married a NuWho guest star, so the Braga fling is not abnormal.

I enjoyed James Woods and even the rest of Shark (and still angry at its sudden cancellation) but had a gut feeling Woods was being difficult (hence the aforementioned cancellation and his silly roles in more recent years).

I have to hear this podcast properly all the way through (it's interesting hearing about Jeri's father having a WWII tragedy, which compelled him to move to the States).

And Jeri blurted out "fuck winter!".
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Old July 18 2013, 01:33 AM   #154
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The problem is that women don't like being pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. They want to be princesses, until someone explains the chains attached to that particular fantasy... You stay at home waiting while the prince slays dragons, and you don't even get to do the house work, just sit there looking pretty until someone put's a baby in you to difuse a tense poolitical situation.

Can you imagine an American President selling off one or more of his daughters to exact peace in the Middle East?

Captain Kathryn this is Voyager 101. Ratings weren't good enough, Braga said boy borg, network said Girl Borg and fire someone. Kim got saved after they wrote him out, which is why Jennifer took a couple episodes to exit.

After that Kate's reaction is your basic girl logic mirror mirror fetish. If you bring in some one younger and prettier than me, then you don't think that I'm young and pretty, and somebody had to pay just short of Kate eating Jeri's heart or handing out poisoned apples.

How many of your husbands have remarried kathryn?

Don't you depise these women proportionately to how well their boobs defy gravity?
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Old July 18 2013, 01:39 AM   #155
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How many of your husbands have remarried kathryn?

Don't you depise these women proportionately to how well their boobs defy gravity?
Was this to me??? I don't have any husbands! And I don't despise anyone except for my boss. I hate the spotlight. I like being alone.

And I already stated a while back I think that Kate Mulgrew being "upstaged" (even if it was just paranoia) was probably a main issue between them. Then again, I don't know either one of them personally.

I just didn't think Garrett Wang was THAT bad that they should have considered firing him.
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Old July 18 2013, 01:42 AM   #156
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Have you seen the picture?

http://www.people.com/people/archive...122086,00.html

No one wears pants that tight when going to see their Mother for dinner.

First, you can't eat. Your seams can't take the stress.

Second, she keeps asking if your sperms are okay under all that pressure.
Reminds me of Decker's umbilical hernia from TMP.

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Old July 18 2013, 01:51 AM   #157
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No artefacts, dump the formula, couldn't we just have an episode where they string together a few drunken (Pete at his worst) Thanksgivings, weddings and Christmasses where his family is at war.
This would be great! And maybe we could get a good Jeri vs Mulgrew food fight over the top of the yams.
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Old July 18 2013, 01:56 AM   #158
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I'm one of the few that likes Harry. I'm not saying he had any kind of fantastic character arc going on or anything cause he didn't. Just a nice guy. I don't see any real reason to remove him necessarily. His character doesn't make for too much thrilling storytelling, but I'll blame that on the writers. :P
I also like Harry, though this doesn't stop me from mocking him. I think he's quite cute as well, I would have loved it if they had slashed up VOY with Tom and Harry as The Chute seemed to promise early on. But that was really the only slashy ep with those two, at least for me. I suppose if I wasn't so meh about Paris I would have invented some other great moments

And I liked Harry far more than Kes who was one of my least favorite Trek characters for years (by about the 5th rewatch I suddenly got okay with her) so I'm not crying over how People changed canon forever.
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Old July 18 2013, 01:59 AM   #159
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How many of your husbands have remarried kathryn?

Don't you depise these women proportionately to how well their boobs defy gravity?
Was this to me??? I don't have any husbands! And I don't despise anyone except for my boss. I hate the spotlight. I like being alone.

And I already stated a while back I think that Kate Mulgrew being "upstaged" (even if it was just paranoia) was probably a main issue between them. Then again, I don't know either one of them personally.

I just didn't think Garrett Wang was THAT bad that they should have considered firing him.
I invented a make believe world where you had 7 exhusbands.

Sorry.

Wang was unprepared and late often. It effected production.

Even then they had a finite amount of money. If they were going to introduce Seven of Nine, someone else had to go.

A year earlier they got rid of Martha and the lad who played Cullah, or/and the budgeting place holder for recurring guest stars was shifted into the special effects budget because Berman thought that more explosions is what the audience really wanted.
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Old July 18 2013, 02:00 AM   #160
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I'm one of the few that likes Harry. I'm not saying he had any kind of fantastic character arc going on or anything cause he didn't. Just a nice guy. I don't see any real reason to remove him necessarily. His character doesn't make for too much thrilling storytelling, but I'll blame that on the writers. :P
I also like Harry, though this doesn't stop me from mocking him. I think he's quite cute as well, I would have loved it if they had slashed up VOY with Tom and Harry as The Chute seemed to promise early on. But that was really the only slashy ep with those two, at least for me. I suppose if I wasn't so meh about Paris I would have invented some other great moments

And I liked Harry far more than Kes who was one of my least favorite Trek characters for years (by about the 5th rewatch I suddenly got okay with her) so I'm not crying over how People changed canon forever.
I prefer Harry over Kes as well. Especially those nice awkward scenes we got between Seven and Harry later on hehe.
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Old July 18 2013, 02:03 AM   #161
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I prefer Harry over Kes as well. Especially those nice awkward scenes we got between Seven and Harry later on hehe.
We also wouldn't have gotten "Timeless" if Kim had been dropped.

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How many of your husbands have remarried kathryn?

Don't you depise these women proportionately to how well their boobs defy gravity?
Was this to me??? I don't have any husbands! And I don't despise anyone except for my boss. I hate the spotlight. I like being alone.

And I already stated a while back I think that Kate Mulgrew being "upstaged" (even if it was just paranoia) was probably a main issue between them. Then again, I don't know either one of them personally.

I just didn't think Garrett Wang was THAT bad that they should have considered firing him.
I invented a make believe world where you had 7 exhusbands.

Sorry.

Wang was unprepared and late often. It effected production.

Even then they had a finite amount of money. If they were going to introduce Seven of Nine, someone else had to go.

A year earlier they got rid of Martha and the lad who played Cullah, or/and the budgeting place holder for recurring guest stars was shifted into the special effects budget because Berman thought that more explosions is what the audience really wanted.
It's cool. I know you didn't literally mean I had so many ex-husbands.

Yeah, I know they had to let someone go. All I was saying is I am surprised they would have gotten rid of Harry. He wasn't hurting anything. He was just like that bumbling guy who wasn't good with the ladies. I liked his friendship with Tom Paris.

I'm glad he didn't go.

Again, not saying his arc was riveting or anything. It wasn't. But how the heck was that Wang's fault? If a character doesn't have good lines...that is the fault of the writers. I majored in English Lit and am an active writer. A character isn't stale unless you make him stale. Not saying a lot isn't determined by acting ability. It is. But, first comes good writing. THEN comes good acting based on the writing. Just my opinion.
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Old July 18 2013, 02:07 AM   #163
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Homeplate was upside down for Harry. He was never going to be happy with an outside in woman. Lets just hope he kept waiting for a weird alien and didn't try to stage a transporter accident.
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Old July 18 2013, 02:11 AM   #164
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But how the heck was that Wang's fault?
The actor was late. A lot. They wanted to replace him with someone who owned an alarm clock.
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I prefer Harry over Kes as well. Especially those nice awkward scenes we got between Seven and Harry later on hehe.
We also wouldn't have gotten "Timeless" if Kim had been dropped.

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And that is my favorite episode and I had never thought of this and now I have something else to throw at the Kes lamenters (you know I still like you Lynx).

I don't even think Harry is dull, I liked Favorite Son, the Libby stuff, I thought the buddy friendship with Paris was often fun..

And you know that buddy friendship could have been a lot more fun if it had all the angst and sexual repression that Miles and Julian had but it didn't. It was awfully wholesome. In the recent relaunch books Tom and Harry have a huge falling out/ angst and repression of feelings drama that drags on forever and typical of the books is neither fun or interesting. I guess bad fanfic plots work better on the screen.
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