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Old July 16 2013, 04:12 AM   #76
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Re: George Lucas: Star Wars stood on the shoulders of Star Trek

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George Lucas is underrated and am I the only one who thinks that the Star Wars Prequels were not as bad as people have made it out to be.
No, there are other people that are also wrong.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:07 AM   #77
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And maybe you shouldn't make assumptions.
Ok at this point you're just replying for the sake of replying. Let's drop this.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:49 AM   #78
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But see I view the change to digital filmmaking as progress. As such, he advanced the medium like no one else.
Like no-one else? Seriously? More than the Lumiere brothers, Sergei Eisenstein, DW Griffith, or Orson Welles?

Lucas had the good fortune to work with a terrific, innovative special effects company. He had the luck of being the director of the movie their special effects sequences were placed in. To view him as not only a cinematic genius, but THE cinematic genius, is ludicrous.

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THIS.
I'd take ENT S3 and ENT S4 over a huge chunk of Star Trek, so I must disagree. I think it's a damn shame ENT was cancelled, and in no way is this a satisfactory replacement.
A terrific, innovative special effects comapnay he helped create.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:49 AM   #79
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The SW prequels were totally ruined by the unbelievably miscast Annikin Skywalker. This guy becoming Darth Vader fits about as well as Wesley Crusher growing up to be John McClane.

And they sucked besides.
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Old July 16 2013, 08:47 PM   #80
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They weren't that bad. Yes the dialogue is silly and the humour is lame, but they were visually impressive (mostly) and they had plenty of memorable stuff. I can't say if I blame Christensen for the bad portrayal of Anakin or Lucas for his direction. Anyway, I like them, but to me there's no denying that the CG series is better.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:27 PM   #81
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WARS isn't especially known for its technobabble, but when Chapter One brought up the midichloridians, that struck me as pure TREK. Did anyone else think the same then?
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Old July 16 2013, 10:28 PM   #82
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They struck me as pure stupid.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:34 PM   #83
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So why cant Star Trek ever match Star Wars in popularity?

Maybe George Lucas should direct Trek 3 and JJ and Spielberg can be the producers.

I would loved that.




http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/george-lu...072400568.html.


I have a BAD feeling about this. No thanks.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:38 PM   #84
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WARS isn't especially known for its technobabble, but when Chapter One brought up the midichloridians, that struck me as pure TREK. Did anyone else think the same then?
It struck me as bad writing. Offering an explanation for something no one needed an explanation for.
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Old July 17 2013, 10:24 AM   #85
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WARS isn't especially known for its technobabble, but when Chapter One brought up the midichloridians, that struck me as pure TREK. Did anyone else think the same then?
Well I'm not a huge fan of the idea, but I understand it's something Lucas wanted to do back at the beginning. Mind you, Lucas isn't very reliable when it comes to when he had which idea.
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Old July 17 2013, 08:39 PM   #86
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Offering an explanation for something no one needed an explanation for.
Yeah, we had Kevin Anderson's Force-detecting paddles.

Midichlorians are better.
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Old July 18 2013, 12:43 AM   #87
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WARS isn't especially known for its technobabble, but when Chapter One brought up the midichloridians, that struck me as pure TREK. Did anyone else think the same then?
It actually flies in the face of what GR originally intended, with never going into Basil Exposition mode to explain how a phaser works because cops don't explain how their .38 works before they use it. It'd be like having a technobabble seminar playing out in TPM while r2 is outside fixing the hyperdrive -- you don't need to explain how FTL works in the SW universe either, because people bought into it up front, just like they did this whole 'force' business (though I was always astonished that nobody else picked up on what SHOULD have been the rejoinder to 'may the force be with you.' Opening day, I remember actually saying 'and also with you' and expecting to hear that rejoinder.)

Maybe you mean the middiebullshitians sounds pure TNG, because they certainly had a way of stating the obvious early on (how many times did Riker babble about 'never having seen ____ before' even though it was something utterly commonplace, like a solar flare?
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Old July 18 2013, 05:43 AM   #88
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Re: George Lucas: Star Wars stood on the shoulders of Star Trek

Back on the topic, during the initial release of Star Wars George Lucas said in an interview that he put the word "Star" in the title as an insurance policy, as it would grab the attention of science fiction fans and prevent the movie from being a flop. I thought that was a clear reference to Star Trek fans.
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Old July 18 2013, 04:18 PM   #89
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"The Wars" would have been a little vague.
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Old July 18 2013, 08:12 PM   #90
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Well, Star Wars sounds much better than 'Journal of the Whills, Part 1' !!!
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