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View Poll Results: How do you rate Pacific Rim?
A+ 31 24.80%
A 35 28.00%
A- 15 12.00%
B+ 25 20.00%
B 7 5.60%
B- 2 1.60%
C+ 2 1.60%
C 1 0.80%
C- 1 0.80%
D+ 1 0.80%
D 1 0.80%
D- 3 2.40%
F+ 0 0%
F 1 0.80%
F- 0 0%
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Old July 14 2013, 08:27 PM   #76
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Re: Pacific Rim - Grading and Discussion

You don't have to be a fan of anime or kaiju films to enjoy Pacific Rim. You just have to be a fan of entertaining movies.
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Old July 14 2013, 09:07 PM   #77
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I have no love for animé(hate is too strong a word), yet I LOVED PR, so your point is kind of nullified.
Or, you're the exception to the rule. I'll wait for more responses that are similar before I abandon my hypothesis.
Abandon it. I'm in the same boat as Tulin.
Me and my friend too, though we're certainly aware of it. I kinda grew out of it years ago.
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Old July 14 2013, 09:24 PM   #78
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Sigh. Looks like Grown Ups 2 is going to win the weekend after all. PR will be lucky to get $40 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3701&p=.htm
What. The. Fuck.

Why would anybody see the sequel to that shit?

This sounds like what happened in 2010 when Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World got trounced by The Expendables and Piranha 3D-unfair, and stupid. People say they want intelligent and good sci-fi films, and yet, instead of supporting them, they support shit like Grown Ups 2?

I hope that word of mouth does save it, indeed.
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Old July 14 2013, 09:32 PM   #79
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Here's an apropos article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmen...s-grown-ups-2/
Box office is not poker. It’s not about new releases and holdovers attempting to make more money than the other movies in the marketplace. Box office is blackjack, where it’s only the film itself against ‘the house’. ‘The house’ in this case being an individual film’s budget and specific (reasonable) expectations about what would qualify as success. If Pacific Rim opens with $30 million, it will arguably not be a domestic success even if it’s number one for the weekend. If Pacific Rim muscles its way to $50 million, it will arguably be a success whether it’s in first place of tenth place. The individual numbers are what counts. It doesn’t matter how high a film debuts, nor does it matter how long it stays in the top five or top ten of the box office. It’s about how much money a specific film makes in relation to how well that specific film has to perform.
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And come Sunday morning, Pacific Rim and Grown Ups 2 should be judged not over which film topped the other, but by how much each film debuted with in relation to their own specific box office needs. The studios don’t care how much all of the films in the marketplace made in a given weekend if their film tanked. And studios don’t care if their film was number one or number two, as long as the actual weekend gross is to their liking. Paramount was thrilled that World War Z opened with $66 million last month and they surely didn’t care too much that Monsters University was still the top film of that weekend. And if Pacific Rim can open substantially higher than its tracking (and/or make a killing overseas), Warner Bros. surely won’t care too much if it makes more or less than the likes of Grown Ups 2 or Despicable Me 2. And we shouldn’t care either.
Reporters turn things like political races and movie box office into horse races because they believe it'll boost their own ratings if they can make the news look like sports. So they manufacture head-to-head competitions where none exist.
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Old July 15 2013, 12:34 AM   #80
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Except that's not really the discussion to be had. The thing that bothers me is that box office numbers indicate that more people would rather go see a completely brainless, vulgar, and unfunny piece of garbage like Grown Ups 2, than would like to see a movie that is actually of a considerable quality like Pacific Rim. It's a sad indicator of the state of our culture.
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Old July 15 2013, 02:59 AM   #81
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What can be said about a film that even Rob Schnieder won't appear in? Not much, apparently
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Old July 15 2013, 03:52 AM   #82
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People say they want intelligent and good sci-fi films, and yet, instead of supporting them, they support shit like Grown Ups 2?
Actually I think it's only the critics and scifi fans who are really calling for intelligent and good scifi. Most of the moviegoing public is perfectly content with their stupid comedies, formulaic horror movies, and endless sequels.

Although to be fair, I'm a huge scifi fan and even I wasn't sure I wanted to see PR for a long while, thanks to the rather generic and uninspired trailers that made it look like some Transformers/Cloverfield knockoff. I can only imagine how disinterested and turned off the general audience must have been-- so clearly I think there was a marketing issue here as well.
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Old July 15 2013, 04:23 AM   #83
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It's a shame this movie didn't come out years ago then. I'd hate to see it viewed as a "ripoff" of Cloverfield and Transformers when it is so much better than all of those movies put together.
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Old July 15 2013, 11:11 AM   #84
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Re: Pacific Rim - Grading and Discussion

Saw it yesterday in IMAX 3D, and it was just as awesome as everyone says, although I want to see it again in 2D, since Guillermo designed it that way.

And I always stay to the very end of the credits, so it was nice to see the dedication to Monster Masters Ray Harryhausen and Ishiro Honda, and hear the deep growl reverberate through the theater (although I'd been hoping to hear Godzilla's roar).
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Old July 15 2013, 11:57 AM   #85
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The movie made close to $100 million worldwide. Let's hope word of mouth keeps it going in the USA.
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Old July 15 2013, 01:12 PM   #86
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If you just want an EXTREMELY fun night at the cinema, without all the emo hand-wringing and annoying self-importance of Nolan's films where very clear good battle very clear evil...
It appears that's not what people want. This one looks to finish behind both Sandler's movie and the second week of Despicable Me 2.
It seems to me that you didn't like people calling it for Star Trek after one weekend yet you do the same thing to Pacific Rim after 2-3 days? There seems to be a lot of "Its the end of the first quarter . . . so who won the game?" mentality on this board. Personally, I think the fact that this movie will appeal to teenagers means this could have enough legs to exceed $120-130 million domestically and 2 1/2 to 3 times that internationally.

I personally think Grown Ups two has burned through its goodwill and that movie will virtually dissapear in the next two weeks while PR will get repeat and word of mouth viewers. Seriously . . . who would sit through Grown Ups two twice?

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Old July 15 2013, 01:16 PM   #87
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I gave it an A, cause there was just buttloads of awesome in this movie. This is the live action movie for everybody who's ever actually liked a giant robo anime...this was the live-action giant robo anime!!!

Those of you who hate anime won't understand or care.
Add me to the group who doesn't care for anime but enjoyed the movie.
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Old July 15 2013, 01:56 PM   #88
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Saw it in 2D Saturday night. I enjoyed it quite a bit, lookin' forward to seein' it in 3D soon.
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Old July 15 2013, 02:09 PM   #89
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I actually felt a bit sad the Russians got their arses handed to them so easily and so quickly. I thought Cherno Alpha was supposed to be this brutish tank, built to take pounding after pounding, but it got torn apart like paper.
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Old July 15 2013, 02:18 PM   #90
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I actually felt a bit sad the Russians got their arses handed to them so easily and so quickly. I thought Cherno Alpha was supposed to be this brutish tank, built to take pounding after pounding, but it got torn apart like paper.
Yeah, agreed. I also thought the chinese 3 armed Jaeger was a pretty cool idea (Though what happens if something happens to one of the triplets? Does China have a surplus of 3 man crews?) but they didn't fare much better than the Russians. It also seemed like at that point in the war the Kaijus knew where the crew compartment/bridges were in those Jaegers and concentrated their attacks there.

And who's bright idea was it to build a giant concrete/steel wall around cities? I anticipate a worldwide concrete shortage during the contruction of . . . I dunno . . . the first 100' tall, 50-60' wide concrete wall's construction. And you are going to build those all over the world? Huh???? Good luck with that.
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