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Old July 14 2013, 06:36 AM   #31
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. . . But in the end it's in the eyes of the beholder; and as someone mentioned (or alluded to) earlier, even bad TOS is pretty good. Which made me think of that tired old cliché about sex . . .
Star Trek TOS is like pizza?
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Old July 14 2013, 06:50 AM   #32
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. . .Surprisingly, he really liked "Patterns of Force". . .
Sounds perfectly normal to me.
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Old July 14 2013, 03:32 PM   #33
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What I thought of the episode when I revisited it sometime ago:

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"Spock's Brain" **

An alien steals Spock's Brain and Kirk races against time to retrieve it.

No matter how you try to describe this episode it's going to sound absurd. That said it would have helped significantly if they had started with a better title. Even something as plain as "The Controller" would have been a huge improvement.

What gets me is I think there is a really interesting science fiction story at the heart of this: a living mind needed to maintain a functioning society. And there are some pretty creepy moments in it as well. But it's mostly undermined by poor choice in story elements.

For one thing was it really necessary to have Spock's body brought along like some mechanized zombie??? In James Blish's adaptation I recall Spock's body being left aboard ship until the surgery was ready to proceed. As is it comes across as too absurd. Also was it really necessary to have the Morg women be total airheads??? A little nuance would have worked wonders here. But the last bloody straw was having Spock speak and direct McCoy through completion of the surgery. And then to end the whole thing with a cheap laugh. Gimme a freakin' break!

Most of the episode is played straight with few missteps, but every so often one of the aforementioned absurdities would ruin what had been accomplished up to that point. It's really hard to accept that Gene Coon could turn in such a botched effort in writing this.

I'd like to add that I quite liked the design of the alien ship. Sadly, instead of enhancing the original retro design, TOS-R felt the need to change it completely for something more contemporary.

I like the story idea, but I'm disappointed with aspects of its execution. And all I can add is that as disappointing as it is I like it better than "And The Children Shall Lead."
Episodes as bad as "Spock's Brain:"
“The Apple”
“I, Mudd”
“A Piece Of The Action”
“The Mark Of Gideon”
“Turnabout Intruder”

Episodes worse than "Spock's Brain:"
“And The Children Shall Lead”
“Wink Of An Eye”
“Whom Gods Destroy”
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Old July 14 2013, 03:51 PM   #34
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I watched this episode not too long ago, I agree with most people that the idea was pretty silly but the episode itself is actually not too bad.
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Old July 14 2013, 04:09 PM   #35
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What a way to start the third broadcast season. Fans must have been shocked. This episode made the last second season episode broadcast ("Assignment: Earth") seem like Shakespeare.
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Old July 14 2013, 04:45 PM   #36
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I've watched it again and I always enjoy it don't know why it's got what I call a TOS feel to it !!! And I think the director Marc Daniels was a good choice for the episode.
Say what you will about this episode, but no one can claim that it's boring.

...The Way to Eden, however...
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Old July 14 2013, 05:03 PM   #37
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Not High Art, perhaps. but at least it isn't And the Children Shall Lead.
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Old July 14 2013, 05:08 PM   #38
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...The Way to Eden, however...
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Old July 14 2013, 11:19 PM   #39
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Although I do love Kirk's WTF face when McCoy tells him they stole Spock's brain. It's exactly how the audience feels.
I've often felt that that was the Shat's way of letting the audience know they didn't like it either.
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Old July 15 2013, 12:34 AM   #40
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What a way to start the third broadcast season.
In the 1970s, official fandom such as Gerrold, also Marshak & Culbreath, would refer to this with some anger. They thought "NBC's decision" to air Spock's Brain first was an insult, a reflection of how little respect NBC had for Star Trek.

They seemed unaware of the fact that NBC did not write or produce Spock's Brain, and the network had to run the episode that was ready first, the one whose music and fx were finished and final print was delivered.

Anyway, I like this episode. It's a fun outing with superb original music, hot women, great fight scenes, and Shatner in top form as Kirk.
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Old July 15 2013, 02:42 AM   #41
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There was a great fight scene in Spock's Brain? Hmm. All these years and I've somehow missed that time and again.
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Old July 15 2013, 04:53 AM   #42
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Spock's Brain is a silly episode, but it has its moments. I especially like the interaction between Kirk, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura. I wish there had been more of that over the course of the series. I watched the episode on MeTV recently and was disappointed that that scene was severely edited.
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Old July 16 2013, 10:55 PM   #43
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MeTV is what got me to finally get TOS on blu-ray. I got so tired of the episodes getting chopped to pieces.

About Spock's Brain: I've always thought it was really silly and stupid but in an enjoyable way. Way to Eden is just stupid and boring.
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Old July 16 2013, 11:24 PM   #44
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DeForest Kelley should have won an Emmy Award for being forced to say "His brain is gone!"
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Old July 17 2013, 12:16 AM   #45
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What a way to start the third broadcast season. Fans must have been shocked. This episode made the last second season episode broadcast ("Assignment: Earth") seem like Shakespeare.
You forgot the first broadcast season started with "The Man Trap"? ("That Salt Vampire is intelligent, trap it, shoot it!").

Of course, no fans had been shocked because these didn't exist, yet (amazing they still came, despite this episode ).

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