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Old July 14 2013, 10:37 AM   #2836
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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I blame the moronic choice of keeping Khan a secret in all the trailers.
This again ? I'd like someone to explain to me how the general public is supposed to care about a villain they never heard about.

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They'll simply continue to emphasize those aspects of the movies that sell well in foreign markets. The next one will probably be more action-oriented and less talky than even this one. I'm sure they'll find a way to make it back to Earth for the climax, as well.
I thought they liked the talking part in other parts of the world...
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Old July 14 2013, 11:11 AM   #2837
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I thought they liked the talking part in other parts of the world...
Not according to "Fast and Furious 6", "The Avengers" and a huge chunk of "Man of Steel".
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Old July 14 2013, 04:44 PM   #2838
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There's plenty of talk in those movies.

Obviously not like "12 Angry Men", of course.
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Old July 14 2013, 05:33 PM   #2839
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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Kind of like Nielsen ratings, but definitely not exactly, if all of Hollywood is doing their "accounting" in the same way, then at least they have the same baseline, so to speak.
I hope their accounting is as bad as the current TV ratings system.

Maybe I'm alone here but I think the Nielson ratings couldn't be more inaccurate, I know they are making attempts to be more accurate but as far as polling goes they are a long ways off.
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Old July 14 2013, 06:27 PM   #2840
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Weekend estimate: $690,000 for $224.3 million so far. The international gross is now $222.5 million for $446.8 million worldwide so far.
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Old July 14 2013, 06:59 PM   #2841
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I blame the moronic choice of keeping Khan a secret in all the trailers.
This again ? I'd like someone to explain to me how the general public is supposed to care about a villain they never heard about.
No one knows for sure but even assuming the general public has never heard of Khan even peripherally it could still potentially have stoked the hype machine from those who do. I do think that if you can excite the media it can spill over to the unwashed masses. I don't know that this would've happened but I think it's at least possible.
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Old July 14 2013, 07:10 PM   #2842
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Weekend estimate: $690,000 for $224.3 million so far. The international gross is now $222.5 million for $446.8 million worldwide so far.
I wonder if Japan can potentially push it to $460m WW ?
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Old July 14 2013, 07:22 PM   #2843
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Love the legs... just wish the first weekend would've packed more punch.

Japan netted 5-6 million for 2009 I think, so 460 is within reach I would say.
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Old July 14 2013, 07:38 PM   #2844
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Love the legs... just wish the first weekend would've packed more punch.

Japan netted 5-6 million for 2009 I think, so 460 is within reach I would say.
When is the Japan opening? and is that the last market?
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Old July 14 2013, 07:42 PM   #2845
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Love the legs... just wish the first weekend would've packed more punch.

Japan netted 5-6 million for 2009 I think, so 460 is within reach I would say.
When is the Japan opening? and is that the last market?
August 23, and yes.

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Old July 14 2013, 07:47 PM   #2846
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There's plenty of talk in those movies.
Not much of it is very important to following the movie.
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Old July 14 2013, 08:13 PM   #2847
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Here is the markets just opened this last week and those that have yet to open, and how much Trek 09 made.

Spain ($3,995,000) just opened this week, so we should get another million and a half from this market.

Greece ($537,000) opens this week.

Venezuela ($569,000) the week after

Argentina ($405,000) 08/22/13 and

finally Japan ($5,822,000) 08/23/13

So far almost every market as earned more money. So using that as a template of just doing roughly the same STiD should earn overseas another 9 million dollars. It could easily based on other markets in similar areas do as much as 20 million more (I doubt it seriously though, as being late in the game, but it could happen).

It's looking like STiD wont earn 230 in the US. It looks to be reaching a ceiling of $229 (but if Paramount wants to milk it to an even number, some times studios will, but it not next to a big number like 250, or 300 for example).

Oversas it looks to be earning a minimum of 231.5.

That means at worst to expect 460.5 million world wide, to a best possible say of 471 million. I would now guess about 463 million.

So basically paramount spent 40 million more to generate 76 or so million. Since studios typically earn around 50% of ticket sales (more in the US, less overseas), Trek STiD will end up very likely earning Paramount and its backers roughly the same amount of profit as Trek 2009.
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Old July 14 2013, 08:31 PM   #2848
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

The summer films that have gone over $400 million worldwide so far:

Iron Man 3 - $1.211 billion
Fast & Furious 6 - $704.2 million
Man of Steel - $619.2 million
Monsters University - $474.2 million
Despicable Me 2 - $472.4 million
Star Trek Into Darkness - $446.9 million
World War Z - $423.1 million
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Old July 14 2013, 09:12 PM   #2849
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No one knows for sure but even assuming the general public has never heard of Khan even peripherally it could still potentially have stoked the hype machine from those who do.
Under your own parameters, I doubt it.

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There's plenty of talk in those movies.
Not much of it is very important to following the movie.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
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Old July 14 2013, 09:32 PM   #2850
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silliness or not, big budgets don't make a great movie. TWOK and TUC were shot on small budgets and are two of the best films in the series.
Those movies were made 20-30 years ago.

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so?

I wasn't suggesting a 25 million dollar budget for STXIII, just saying that even if the budget's drastically slashed it shouldn't be an excuse for poor movie quality.
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