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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old July 13 2013, 12:35 AM   #31
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Re: Star Trek III - great rewatch value

The only real issue I had with ST3 was the additional unexplained extensive battle damage on the starboard side and other untouched areas of the Enterprise. I think this was done by ILM as "artistic license" to reinforce the concept that the Enterprise was too old and beat up to be repaired and was due for decommissioning. Not to mention for the shocked reaction shot from Janice Rand in space dock. Though in retrospect if Morrow had given Scotty the time and resources to properly repair the Enterprise Spock would have been dead again by then since Genesis wouldn't have held together for that long.
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Old July 13 2013, 12:53 AM   #32
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The only real issue I had with ST3 was the additional unexplained extensive battle damage on the starboard side and other untouched areas of the Enterprise. I think this was done by ILM as "artistic license"
Yeah, but readers of the comic saw all the extra adventures the ship had between ST II and III.

My most memorable aspect of ST III: I'd only just moved into a new flat and my friends congregated at my place to get dressed for the gala premiere. As we were nearing the cinema, I realised that I'd left the iron on.

It was very hard to sit through the volcanic destruction of the Genesis Planet knowing what might be happening back at my new flat.


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Old July 13 2013, 01:21 AM   #33
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I've heard of the extra comic book adventures between ST2 and 3 where extra battles took place and resulted in the damage. Can someone give me some sort of synopsis of these battles? I never saw the comics back in the 80s when they came out.
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Old July 13 2013, 02:09 AM   #34
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Don't forget John Laroqette from "Night Court" as Maltz. Near the end when Kirk and co beam up to the BoP by tricking Maltz. Scotty and Chekov try to engage the warp drive but don't know how. Kirk orders Maltz to tell them how to engage engines and threatens to kill him. Maltz refuses: "I do not deserve to live." Kirk: "Fine. I'll kill you later."
I am a big fan of John Laroqette in Night Court and I never realized that was him as Maltz!

I too enjoy ST III. I know it supposedly follows the odd-numbered movie curse, so for many years I always felt like I was supposed to dislike it for this reason. But when I gained the maturity in life to have the courage to like/dislike things because of my own preferences, rather than what was vogue, I could never find a reason to dislike the film. As others have pointed out II, III, and IV make a great stand-alone trilogy to watch together as a marathon, and it's fairly easy so to do. You don't know how many times I put on II to just watch the opening scene and then find myself 5 hours later having rewatched these three films.
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Old July 13 2013, 04:20 AM   #35
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I've heard of the extra comic book adventures between ST2 and 3 where extra battles took place and resulted in the damage. Can someone give me some sort of synopsis of these battles?
Issues #1-8:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/St...irst_series%29
Sadly, it looks like no one has synopsized them all of them yet, but there are a few done.

http://www.startrekcomics.info/dc1tos.html
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Old July 13 2013, 05:14 AM   #36
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LOVE TSFS, my fourth favourite in fact.
Same here.
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Old July 13 2013, 05:17 AM   #37
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It is easily one of my favorites. Great rewatch value.
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Old July 13 2013, 02:54 PM   #38
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Trek III is the film that expanded the universe the most, and it has the grandest scope. So many new ships. So many new characters. Movie Klingons for the first time. It's also the most daring. Killing David, destroying the Enterprise, turning the crew into renegades. And James Horner's soundtrack! The soundtrack!

It also successfully merges the TMP style with the TOS style.

It's the best one, together with TWOK.
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Old July 13 2013, 11:04 PM   #39
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TSFS is by far my favorite of the TOS movies. I love the character moments throughout.
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Old July 13 2013, 11:06 PM   #40
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I love Star Trek 3. In fact, I like it better than Wrath of Khan. More than any of the other TOS cast movies, this one just hit all the right marks for me. I loved the way the relationships between the crew were portrayed, and it was just generally fun.
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Old July 14 2013, 12:01 AM   #41
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I love Star Trek 3. In fact, I like it better than Wrath of Khan. More than any of the other TOS cast movies, this one just hit all the right marks for me. I loved the way the relationships between the crew were portrayed, and it was just generally fun.
I also rate The Search for Spock above The Wrath of Khan.
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Old July 15 2013, 03:44 AM   #42
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Trek III is the film that expanded the universe the most, and it has the grandest scope. So many new ships. So many new characters. Movie Klingons for the first time. It's also the most daring. Killing David, destroying the Enterprise, turning the crew into renegades. And James Horner's soundtrack! The soundtrack!
Definitely! Very influential on the rest of the franchise, moreso than any other Trek film before or since. TSFS...

1. Introduced the notion to Trek that the hero's ship is fair game for destruction during an adventure, but don't worry, it'll be replaced in the next film (or next episode, in the final season of Deep Space Nine).

2. Was the debut of the Excelsior, which represented 90% of Starfleet vessels in the TNG era.

3. Began the trend of the Klingons being the most over-used alien race in Trek lore.

4. Unveiled the Klingon Bird of Prey, which became at least as common in the Klingon space armada as the Excelsior did in Starfleet's, in multiple sizes, even! Also, the Romulans were no longer the alien race with the cloaking attack vessels.

5. Featured that-there Shroomdock, showing use in no uncertain terms that Starfleet's main base was situated in orbit around Earth.

6. Had the heroes no only disobeying orders from Starfleet Command, but also becoming outlaws. (Don't worry though everything will turn out fine, and their illegal activities will have saved the day!)
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Old July 17 2013, 09:17 AM   #43
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They recently added the blu ry version of star trek 3 on netflix so i was able to watch it again and you know what i actually enjoyed it even more then my first viewing. Theres a lot to love about the film. My top star trek movie lists now reads
Star trek voyage home( the comedy and characer interactions are my favorite thing about trek and this did it wonderfuly)

Star trek first contact

Star trek undiscovered county (for some reason i just love this one the musc fits in perfectly)

Star trek wrath of kahn ( loved it but was a little disapointed after hearing about how great it was but like it better after more viewings)

Star trek search for spock
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Old July 19 2013, 06:49 PM   #44
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I always love the space dock scene. It's a visual reminder of the grandness of the federation and indeed the whole Star Trek universe.
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Old July 20 2013, 12:15 AM   #45
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I don't understand a lot of the Star Trek III hate. It's a damn solid film. It provides nice drama, good characters, and possibly the best resurrection of a popular character ever. I personally like the whole Genesis trilogy, but not Star Trek IV as much as the first two, though, but for my own reasons.
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