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Old July 13 2013, 04:06 PM   #16
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Re: Spocks Brain..... Is It That Bad ????

Is it that bad? Yes. Yes, it is. And I have come to love it. Here's one of the reasons why:

http://mikecarano.com/spocksbrain.mov
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Old July 13 2013, 04:10 PM   #17
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I understand Spock's Brain has value for some as fun camp but I am not really a fan of camp. So it doesn't really do it for me. I like to laugh at intentional comedy not nonsense. But to each their own.

I do disagree it is the absolute worst episode. It has some merit, such as more scenes for supporting characters like Chekov, Uhura, and Sulu but its still a bad episode.
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Old July 13 2013, 04:12 PM   #18
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The best thing about Spock's Brain is the dead look in Spock's eyes when his brain's been removed...
The part I like is Spock's brainless body being puppeteered by some gizmo on his head and a remote control device, inexplicably accompanied by an odd clicking sound.

Oh, and Miss Go-Go Boots wasn't too hard on the eyes.

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Old July 13 2013, 04:15 PM   #19
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Re: Spocks Brain..... Is It That Bad ????

"Spock's Brain" was nicely parodied in an episode of The Wonder Years. Young Fred Savage does a pretty good Shatner.




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Old July 13 2013, 07:03 PM   #20
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Re: Spocks Brain..... Is It That Bad ????

As I had posted some years back, to me, TOS is a collection of 79 gems of varying luster. "Spock's Brain" is among those gems....perhaps not the brightest or among the very most beautiful, but a gem nonetheless.
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Old July 13 2013, 07:26 PM   #21
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Is it that bad? Well . . . depends. There are probably about 70 episodes I like better, but there are a handful or so that I like less. This one is not as over-the-top ridiculous as The Omega Glory, it's not as flat-out embarrassing as Plato's Stepchildren, and it's not as irritating as And The Children Shall Lead.
But in the end it's in the eyes of the beholder; and as someone mentioned (or alluded to) earlier, even bad TOS is pretty good. Which made me think of that tired old cliché about sex . . .
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Old July 13 2013, 08:37 PM   #22
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"Spock's Brain" isn't one of TOS' stellar moments, but neither is it the absolutely nadir. "And The Children Shall Lead" is a lot worse. And yet both episodes have a genuinely solid story idea within them that is marred by unfortunate creative choices. "Spock's Brain" has a solid SF idea in it: a living mind is needed to maintain a civilization. "And The Children Shall Lead" could have been a genuine horror story to really creep you out.
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Old July 13 2013, 09:01 PM   #23
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My stepson (age 14) is spending the summer with me and after seeing "Star Trek Into Darkness", he has decided that Star Trek is cool. We are working our way through the original series.

His "Top 5" favorites have been "Balance of Terror", "The City on the Edge of Forever", "The Doomsday Machine", "The Trouble with Tribbles" and "Mirror, Mirror". He has excellent taste.

So far his least favorite episodes have been "Shore Leave" (which he figured out as soon as the little antenna-gizmo made its appearance) and "The Omega Glory" (which made him laugh out loud). "Spock's Brain" he thought was "funny, but okay". Surprisingly, he really liked "Patterns of Force". Guess I'd better start checking the margins of his homework for swastikas.
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Old July 13 2013, 09:06 PM   #24
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While there are some TOS episodes that can make me sigh with disappointment over the choices made there are none that I actually wholly dislike, even those I kinda wish had never been made.
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Old July 13 2013, 09:20 PM   #25
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Brain isn't that bad, it's just not all that good.

It was TV. Not a medium known for its depth at the time, or now for that matter.

What it is, is Star Trek. Trek did (and does) good and bad episodes, and they're all Star Trek. Even the movies do the exact same thing as all the series have done. Good episodes, and not so good ones. They're all Star Trek, so they're all good.

Like pizza.
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Old July 13 2013, 09:47 PM   #26
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I hate "The Alternative Factor." "Plato's Stepchildren" is embarrassing. "Spock's Brain" is painful. "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" is tedious. There's a difference. Defending episodes like these is why the producers believe (rightly) that they can shovel any crap they want at us -- and we'll eat it up -- so long it has STAR TREK stamped on it.
What's wrong with you? I love most of these episodes because each of these gave us something unique:
  • "The Alternative Factor" - dilithium crystal regeneration room (never seen again, thanks for this episode)
  • "I, Mudd" - port side wall of the Auxiliary Control Room
  • "Spock's Brain" - interesting wall console "starship style" in the "brain room"
  • "And the Children Shall Lead" - great tour of the "Solarium" aka Rec Room Season Three
  • "Let That Be..." - different access to hangar deck, bulkhead doors in corridors etc.
Hmm...if these episodes are crap they definitely knew how to sugarcoat these for me.

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Old July 14 2013, 12:36 AM   #27
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^ I never said anything about "I, Mudd" or "Children." And it would seem—from the above list—that your definition of "good" is showing you more of the Enterprise interiors. Nothing wrong with that, as I know you're one of many fans doing 3D or CAD reconstructions. However, I demand a little bit more from an episode to class it "good."

The original set designers probably cringe over such close attention to work they likely considered transitory and "please don't give it a closeup."
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Old July 14 2013, 03:14 AM   #28
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Has nobody mentioned Fred Steiner's music for "Spock's Brain"? Even during the episode, there are standout melodies. As heard on the La La Land CD, all the details emerge. This is a spectacular score rich with melody, beauty, and excitement.
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Old July 14 2013, 05:37 AM   #29
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Carcazoid wrote: View Post
Brain isn't that bad, it's just not all that good.

It was TV. Not a medium known for its depth at the time, or now for that matter.

What it is, is Star Trek. Trek did (and does) good and bad episodes, and they're all Star Trek. Even the movies do the exact same thing as all the series have done. Good episodes, and not so good ones. They're all Star Trek, so they're all good.

Like pizza.
Of all the TOS episodes, the only one that I really truly dislike is The Alternative Factor. As for Spock's Brain, I have come to appreciate it over the years, is fun in the same way that the Batman TV series was fun.
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Old July 14 2013, 05:39 AM   #30
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It's become short-hand for "bad Trek," but really, it's not even in the bottom five. It's not nearly as bad as "way to eden," "alternative factor," and a few others.


it's dumb but entertaining
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