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View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 28 11.16%
A 53 21.12%
A- 46 18.33%
B+ 25 9.96%
B 27 10.76%
B- 11 4.38%
C+ 13 5.18%
C 12 4.78%
C- 9 3.59%
D+ 8 3.19%
D 10 3.98%
D- 5 1.99%
F 4 1.59%
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Old July 12 2013, 04:24 AM   #1171
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^ The same John Byrne who took over Superman from 1986-1988. His comics titled Superman: The Man Of Steel in the compilations. Also the same man responsible from Superman killing Zod, Zaora and Quex-Ul in Superman #22.
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Old July 12 2013, 04:32 AM   #1172
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CGI wouldn't have been an issue in 1983...and I don't consider Chris Reeve throwing tires at himself to be the pinnacle of his acting career.
The point of the scene wasn't Superman throwing tires at himself, Old Mixer Come on, guy. Inner turmoil, angst, despair. All that good super hero suffering stuff.

I imagine starring on Broadway with Katharine Hepburn was the pinnacle for Reeve. When the Broadway critics and Katharine Hepburn think you're good, you know you're having a good year. To think he was actually doing a soap opera the year before. Talk about coming up in the world. Love of Life. There's actually youtube clips of him from it.
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Old July 12 2013, 04:49 AM   #1173
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If Richard Pryor and the "comedy" had been removed from Superman III, it would have been a much better movie. I really liked the Clark returns to Smallville aspect and his relationship with Lana and the smaller scale of the script. If the comedy had come strictly from a Prankster style character and left out the silly slapstick, it would have come across a little better.

This was also the first Superman I saw in the theater and I remember some of the special effects really wowing me as a teenager.
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Old July 12 2013, 04:53 AM   #1174
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For 1978, the effects were pretty good.
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Old July 12 2013, 05:01 AM   #1175
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For 1978, the effects were pretty good.
It received a Special Achievement Academy Award for its visual effects.
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Old July 12 2013, 05:12 PM   #1176
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The awful 70s costumes are FAR more dated than the visual effects in those movies.
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Old July 12 2013, 05:36 PM   #1177
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Actually, I'd say the police cars are what's most dated.
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Old July 12 2013, 08:12 PM   #1178
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Besides the story problems, I just didn't believe that Henry Cavill was Superman.
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Old July 12 2013, 08:51 PM   #1179
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Besides the story problems, I just didn't believe that Henry Cavill was Superman.
Funny. He's the only actor to play the part that I COULD believe was Superman.
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Old July 12 2013, 09:49 PM   #1180
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Besides the story problems, I just didn't believe that Henry Cavill was Superman.
Funny. He's the only actor to play the part that I COULD believe was Superman.
Don't get me wrong, Cavill was good. The effects were great. I just didn't believe all the primal screams and angst and stuff. He was playing Superman, but I didn't think he owned it. I didn't believe that he was Superman.

The story was ... not right. I just didn't get it. The movie left me empty.

In contrast, back in 1978 Christopher Reeve owned that role. He made me believe a man could fly.
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Old July 12 2013, 11:35 PM   #1181
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ISn't that part of the issue the Reeves films esp. the first two cast a long shadow of Superman. And it can be hard for a new film/TV show to escape that shadow.

And the Williams score is a classic

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Old July 12 2013, 11:47 PM   #1182
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ISn't that part of the issue the Reeves films esp. the first two cast a long shadow of Superman. And it can be hard for a new film/TV show to escape that shadow.

And the Williams score is a classic
No doubt.

As campy as those movies were, Christopher Reeve was Superman. Long shadow indeed.
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Old July 12 2013, 11:51 PM   #1183
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Carcazoid wrote: View Post
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Besides the story problems, I just didn't believe that Henry Cavill was Superman.
Funny. He's the only actor to play the part that I COULD believe was Superman.
Don't get me wrong, Cavill was good. The effects were great. I just didn't believe all the primal screams and angst and stuff. He was playing Superman, but I didn't think he owned it. I didn't believe that he was Superman.

The story was ... not right. I just didn't get it. The movie left me empty.

In contrast, back in 1978 Christopher Reeve owned that role. He made me believe a man could fly.
Yeah, I think I'm the opposite. Even as a kid in 1978, Reeve never struck me as anything more than an actor in a costume....one he was too small for no matter how much he tried to muscle up.

As an adult, I have a hard time watching the Superman parts of the '78 movie, but really enjoy everything from Krypton right up till he put's on the suit. Some really nice stuff there.

The first movie was the myth of Superman realized. MoS is Superman realized IMO.
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Old July 12 2013, 11:53 PM   #1184
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I forgot how long those opening credits were. Yikes!
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Old July 13 2013, 12:01 AM   #1185
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Dream wrote: View Post
Dorian Thompson wrote: View Post
For 1978, the effects were pretty good.
It received a Special Achievement Academy Award for its visual effects.
You will believe a man can fly. (or something like that)
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