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Old July 12 2013, 07:37 PM   #16
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Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?

If you recall, at the end of The Voyage Home, Kirk and Co. were "tried" in front of the Fed Council rather than a court martial (which one would typically expect.)

So my hand wave on the letter suffix is that the Fed Council legislated it to be so for all starships Enterprise, in honor of the ship and crew saving Earth twice in 15 years, and so Starfleet is stuck with it...
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Old July 12 2013, 07:52 PM   #17
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Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?

Yeah, that's a stretch. Legislatures never change laws over decades. Nope.
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Old July 13 2013, 03:38 AM   #18
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Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?

I think after the Enterprise-A, it just became a unique Starfleet tradition for subsequent starships with the name--nothing less and nothing more, IMO. Personally, I don't think it's a practice that should extend beyond the Enterprise, with the Yamato-E shown to be as fake as the Dauntless-A.
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Old July 13 2013, 10:13 AM   #19
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Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?

I like the idea that the Yamato has a similar tradition to the Enterprise. I don't think the big E would be the only one with a history.
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Old July 13 2013, 01:55 PM   #20
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Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?

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I thing it's a shame that the uss Sao paolo in the seventh season of DS9 was renamed Defiant NCC-75633 ant not Defiant NX-74205-A
Actually, Sao Paulo carries Defiant's original NX-74205 registry since pretty much everything we see it in is just stock footage. Indeed, the original intention was to give it the registry NCC-74205-A but they had no time or money to make the change.

Also, timeship Relativity's registry was NCV-474439-G and its dedication plaque says "seventh ship to bear the name." Unfortunately, this is actually rather sloppy, since if that truly is the seventh Relativity the first would be NCV-474439-A as opposed to plain ordinary NCV-474439.
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Old July 13 2013, 05:30 PM   #21
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No reason the Starfleet of the 29th century can't have an alternate system of registries that include a letter with the first vessel to bear the name.
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Old July 14 2013, 02:50 AM   #22
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While we could rationalize it that way, I think it's more a case of someone forgetting that A would be placed on the registry of the second Relativity, not the first.
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Old July 14 2013, 09:54 AM   #23
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Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?

With the Relativity's unique mission, those letters could even designate alternate versions of the ship.
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Old July 14 2013, 11:56 AM   #24
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Cool idea...

As for the Enterprise letters, the E-A appeared to be a unique ship in Starfleet history in being a deliberate replica of a previous vessel. The whole point of giving this ship to the man who saved Earth (again) was to give him a personal memento and trophy (and a ship that turned out to be a completely expendable lemon, perhaps not coincidentally). Bureaucrats couldn't allow for two ships to carry the same registry, of course, so NCC-1701-A was the next best thing... We might very well argue that the E-A was the first UFP Starfleet ship with an -A suffix, at least, if not the only one.

The -B in the E-B might have been a pure publicity trick, just like having Kirk aboard for the launch. The Cold War had just ended - surely Starfleet needed all the good PR it could get in launching a massive new starship! Two ships would then create a pattern Starfleet would be disinterested in breaking.

For the Yamato to be at -E when the Enterprise is still a -D isn't a wonder, considering the big gap between the E-C and the E-D...

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Old July 14 2013, 12:45 PM   #25
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Some starships may even have honorary doctorates and other "letters."
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Old July 14 2013, 01:20 PM   #26
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Honoring the Enterprise name is a bone to the fans, but the general populace of the UFP or the top brass of Starfleet shouldn't think anything more of a hull with Enterprise painted on it than they should of a hull with Pansy painted on it.
Yes, that's probably the real life reason behind it. "In-Universe", however, I think it had been intended as a psychological message to the Romulans, who had suffered plenty of humiliation from the Enterprise NCC-1701.

Would also explain why the Romulans in TNG were constantly eager to get their hands on yet another Enterprise. The name of the ship and its registry must be something like a red flag for any Romulan.

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Old July 14 2013, 09:56 PM   #27
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Then again, in ST4 the big enemies were still the Klingons. Why insult an enemy's enemy?

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Old July 21 2013, 04:32 PM   #28
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in honor of the ship and crew saving Earth twice in 15 years...
That makes since.

I don't know much about the Enterprise B besides it being a modified Excelsior-class but it's advancement may have been planned to be the best at what it does of it's time deeming it worthy of calling it Enterprise. The same with the heavy cruiser, Ambassador-class, war time ship that C was. The D was a flag ship that saved earth multiple times and the E was also the most advanced ship of it's time. Maybe the Enterprise label means it's the best they have?
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Old July 21 2013, 09:57 PM   #29
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Starfleet commissioned a USS Saratoga-A in Michael Jan Friedman's Saratoga novel.
This is curious...

We have the Saratoga NCC 1887 which we saw in Trek 4, disabled by the whale probe.

Then we saw Sisko's Saratoga get blowed up by the Borg in Emissary. I always figured that it was meant to be the same ship from Trek 4, but the registry number is different (NCC-31911).

And then we have the ship apparently built to replace Sisko's one, which docked at DS9 in "Wrongs Darker than Death or Night."

Assuming that these were the only ships to bear the name Saratoga, I would have thought Sisko's one would have been the Saratoga A.
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Old July 21 2013, 09:59 PM   #30
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I thing it's a shame that the uss Sao paolo in the seventh season of DS9 was renamed Defiant NCC-75633 ant not Defiant NX-74205-A
Actually, it was still 74205. The reason they didn't change it was because they couldn't justify changing the registry for only a few episodes and re-doing all of their ship shots. If they'd changed it to 74633, then they could have changed it just as easily to 74205-A.
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