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Old July 11 2013, 07:01 AM   #211
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Re: Better if they had allowed main cast to die?

Of course it's a mark of a good character that people get upset at their death in the first place.
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Old July 11 2013, 09:19 AM   #212
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I'm upset that Kim was born.

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Old July 11 2013, 11:32 AM   #213
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The point is, folks take the minor petty things and see ONLY that and don't care about any of the good. Because the bad is all that matters.
Why? Why would Voyager get this treatment and not earlier trek shows?
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Old July 11 2013, 11:34 AM   #214
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Jealousy.
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Old July 11 2013, 11:50 AM   #215
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Well I am quite jealous of Tom Paris' good looks and easygoing charm.

I'm just trying to figure out where Anwar's got this perception of Voyager somehow being unfairly maligned.
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Old July 11 2013, 11:58 AM   #216
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Re: Better if they had allowed main cast to die?

I had the revelation one day while in the ENT forum that there are no hot men on Voyager, NONE. You have to go ENT for that. It's sad, but I've learned to live with it.

(Some are kind of pleasant to look at, like a nice lamp.)
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Old July 11 2013, 05:24 PM   #217
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The point is, folks take the minor petty things and see ONLY that and don't care about any of the good. Because the bad is all that matters.
Why? Why would Voyager get this treatment and not earlier trek shows?
Earlier Trek shows are just as guilty of this, yet they get none of the venom Voyager does.

Folks were just out to give VOY a hard time as soon as it started, I don't know why.
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Old July 11 2013, 07:43 PM   #218
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Re: Better if they had allowed main cast to die?

Citations Needed.
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Old July 11 2013, 08:54 PM   #219
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I would have cried forever and ever and never forgiven the creators. I like it just the way it is.

This is why startrek Prime universe failed.


No one wanted to change anything and it stagnated.
Change for Change's sake is NEVER a good thing.
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Old July 11 2013, 10:29 PM   #220
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Except it wasn't change for change's sake, it was change because the franchise as it was had died.
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Old July 12 2013, 04:36 AM   #221
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Citations Needed.
No one seems to tear into "Shades of Grey" or "Spock's Brain" as badly as VOY is trashed.
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Old July 12 2013, 08:39 AM   #222
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What person A defines as something being trashed, person B defines as critisim. It is possible to enjoy something yet feel that it was lacking in parts.

VOY premise seemed to lean towards a more serialised show, yet we got a more episodic show. A fair few people don't think VOY ever really sold us it's premise hence why the show is referred to as TNG-lite.

Surely those who level critisim at episode for the most part tuned in weekly, so it held enough interest for them to tune in but whilst some are happy with what they got others felt it could have been more. Neither viewpoint is right or wrong, as we all have our likes and dislikes.

And yes "Shades of Gray" and "Spock's Brain" are bad episodes and they are both definantly towards the franchises bottom end in terms of quality.
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Old July 12 2013, 09:26 AM   #223
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I want to know how many bitchy criticizers does my years of fangirling cancel out? Because I think it cancels out quite a lot of them. They swoop in and shriek and point to plot holes and then they're off to the next Big Fail. But I'm here all the time and on facebook and on tumblr and just aaaaaaaaaaaalll over the internet fangirling and panting and loving.

I think I cancel out at least 8 of them a month.
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Old July 12 2013, 01:32 PM   #224
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Tumblr? In which case you cancel out 11 angry nerds with every animated gif.
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Old July 12 2013, 01:45 PM   #225
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I crush them with my rapid slide shows of mirth.
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