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Old May 7 2013, 07:47 PM   #151
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. . .Its only problem is that it makes the show feel too futuristic. . .
Maybe this is part of the reason I have a problem with it. I don't see it as futuristic, but as a cliche. I got into sci-fi at 8, and maybe I've just seen too many sci-fi stories in the 54 years since. I can see antecedents of the TCW in The Outer Limits' "Soldier" and "Demon with a Glass Hand". It would have probably worked for me as its own self-contained series. I just don't think it had any business being squeezed into Enterprise's premise. I initially thought they were using the TCW to establish that Archer & Company were in an alternate universe from the beginning (as Abrams later did), but they didn't even do that.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:29 AM   #152
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My issue with the TCW is I never quite understood who is fighting against who, and who's exactly doing the right thing? what they did to start the fourth season, I loved.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:52 AM   #153
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Well with Shockwave it's hard to take that cliffhanger seriously... "oh no, the timeline is screwed up!" yeah... I'm biting my nails over that one from Enterprise.

As for the TCW... well it serves no purpose... we don't know who's fighting who and why... there's no coherent plot... and no resolution... so yeah. I think it's terrible. This without mentioning that time travel in Trek is so cliche it's apparently easier to travel in time and screw up the timeline than it is to warp from point a to point b.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:18 AM   #154
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Well with Shockwave it's hard to take that cliffhanger seriously... "oh no, the timeline is screwed up!" yeah... I'm biting my nails over that one from Enterprise.

As for the TCW... well it serves no purpose... we don't know who's fighting who and why... there's no coherent plot... and no resolution... so yeah. I think it's terrible. This without mentioning that time travel in Trek is so cliche it's apparently easier to travel in time and screw up the timeline than it is to warp from point a to point b.
And these are all things that are the fault of Berman and Braga. Yes the studio put the kibosh on some things, but the things that were still under their control were half-baked and they were constantly using the other series as crutches.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:38 AM   #155
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I'd say that the TCW is not supposed to be a clear conflict which is transparent to the crew of the NX or the audience. First the Suliban are enemy, later they are allies.
I think it was overall very well done and not something we had seen before but I didn't like that it became so dominant; the beginnings of all four seasons are after all about the TCW.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:56 AM   #156
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. . .it's hard to take that cliffhanger seriously... "oh no, the timeline is screwed up!" yeah... I'm biting my nails over that one from Enterprise. . .
I've not seen Matt Winston in anything but Enterprise, so I don't know what he's capable of. But either his performance or his direction was implausible to me when conveying Daniels' state of shock in the future. I was once in an auto accident that totalled my car and smashed up my face-- tore the nose and almost lost an eye when the metal horn ring popped off the steering wheel and clobbered me. For a few moments, with blood pouring out of my face, I thought I was dead. Then realized I couldn't be dead if I was thinking about it. So I managed to squeeze out of the car and ran around in a panic when I saw the damage, "Oh no, my car!" People had to force me to sit down until an ambulance arrived. After surgery an hour later, the adrenalin wore off and I did go into shock, shaking like I was cold. Amazingly, there was no pain or broken bones. Apparently the force of the blow from the horn ring left my face numb for a few days.
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Old May 8 2013, 07:40 AM   #157
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The TCW always kind of seemed to me like B&B cutting off their noses to spite their faces, "Fine we'll do it but we won't try very hard".
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Old July 12 2013, 03:14 AM   #158
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Sorry for the unexpected absence. It took them over a month to get my phone line fixed.

2:01 - Shockwave, Part II (2nd Season Opener)

TV Blurb: Archer tries to get back from the future, T'Pol babbles mindlessly, Hoshi drops in and surprises Malcolm. Written by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga. Directed by Allan Kroeker.

Starting immediately after the events of Part 1, this is a very fast paced episode with space battles, corridor firefights, and lots of scene cuttings as we jump between T'Pol and Enterprise trying to cope with Silik and his soldiers capturing the ship, Archer and Daniels trying to escape a timeline where the Federation never existed, and Admiral Forrest dealing with Ambassador Soval's usual crap.

The Archer-Daniels subplot made me remember the old tried and true formula of putting a character in a locked room, and having him try to get out. Daniels takes a tip from all those 1000 year old MacGyver reruns and manages to build a way to escape a 31st century that has no suitable technology. Or even other people apparently. The scenes during the walk through the destroyed city (San Francisco?) reminded of Logan's Run and its ruined Washington DC.

The episode does what it needs to do to wrap up the previous installment, and I didn't find it boring, but it's all pretty straightforward. Some of the characters get to do something a little different-- Malcolm gets beat up instead of the usual Archer, Hoshi crawls through a ventilation shaft (shades of Mission: Impossible), and T'Pol gets to sprawl on a bed in her undies. Well, that part of it isn't all that different, but she's delirious after an interrogation scene.

Of course the highlight of the episode, loved by so many on this board, is The Gazelle Speech® by Jonathan Archer. But the payoff with that speech is Soval's response to it, and maybe it's sometimes overlooked. Soval wants Starfleet to permanently recall Enterprise, then Archer gives his impassioned Gazelle Speech. And Gary Graham as Soval, with usual Vulcan verbosity, says to the effect, 'WTF does that have to do with what we're talking about?'

In the season's outtakes, Scott Bakula does a dead-on Woody Woodpecker impression in the final scene.

Next up: "Carbon Creek"
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Old July 12 2013, 03:23 AM   #159
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A month to fix your phone line?! Yeah that's when it's time to find a new provider. Welcome back though!

Shockwave part 2? Yeah.. you can tell they wrote this one well after part 1. Gotta love T'Pol's religious like faith in there not being time travel. The bibl-- I mean Vulcan Science Academy says so! Despite the apparent overwhelming evidence!
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Old July 12 2013, 03:37 AM   #160
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A month to fix your phone line?! Yeah that's when it's time to find a new provider. Welcome back though!
Thanks and yeah, it's the worst problem I've ever had with a phone company. I may have to switch to wireless or cable, and I didn't want to do either.

Though on the bright side, during the outage I got myself a wireless keyboard (Logitech), as my old one was like a $5 piece of crap and half the keys required going into Hulk mode to put enough pressure on the keys. Which was slow going for a touch typist.
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Old July 12 2013, 04:46 AM   #161
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A month to fix your phone line?! Yeah that's when it's time to find a new provider. Welcome back though!
Thanks and yeah, it's the worst problem I've ever had with a phone company. I may have to switch to wireless or cable, and I didn't want to do either.

Though on the bright side, during the outage I got myself a wireless keyboard (Logitech), as my old one was like a $5 piece of crap and half the keys required going into Hulk mode to put enough pressure on the keys. Which was slow going for a touch typist.
Well a lot of us were wondering what happened to you. Glad you're back and able to more efficiently offer your unique views of Trek and the world!
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Welcome back! *shakes fluffy fist at phone company*
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Old July 12 2013, 06:08 PM   #165
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Enterprise really hit the ground running with "Broken Bow", and my memory of it is still being one of the stronger, more captivating Star Trek pilots. Some conflict between the characters and a great sense of explorers going where few humans have ever gone. It carries on strongly for a few episodes after, with the next one easily as good and after an initial mistake, some tough Kirk-like decision making from Archer to try and put things right. Enjoy that raw feeling to the show, as the novelty unfortunately wears off a bit later in the year IMO. Although coming straight from many years of watching Voyager, may account for much of my, seen this all before level of jadedness. The acting is pretty much always top notch, simply for never letting up with that wide-eyed sense of wonder about experiencing new worlds, new civilizations and the rest of original Star Trek's Final Frontier monologue.
It's definitely better than I remember it, and it's incredibly refreshing in comparison to iTrek '09. I really do get the sense they're just starting out exploring and trying it out the first time - I just started watching it again myself. Enjoy your run through!!
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