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Old July 8 2013, 08:18 PM   #91
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On the character alone, this movie or any its earlier incarnations, he is just your standard western hero in mask. There is nothing sexy or adventurous like Zorro. Which has allowed him to be appeal to new generations.
Not just a Western hero, but a particularly old-school Western hero. The Ranger has no dark side, no internal conflicts. He tries not to kill anyone. He does have a dramatic and violent origin story, yes, but his response to it is simply to be more lawful, honest, virtuous and honorable than anyone else. Add a mask and subtract the singing, he's not much different from a Gene Autry or Roy Rogers hero. I'm not really surprised the character seems to resist modern (much less post-modern) re-interpretations.
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Old July 8 2013, 10:58 PM   #92
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Disney execs must be pulling their hair out.

Failing to fire off a silver bullet, Disney's The Lone Ranger posted a grim five-day debut of $48.9 million, far from enough to make up for the high cost of the Johnny Depp-Armie Hammer Western.

Well I guess this puts the nail on 200 million dollar westerns.

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Old July 8 2013, 11:26 PM   #93
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^ Are you talking budget or box office as Django and True Grit did pretty well.
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Old July 9 2013, 01:03 AM   #94
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^ Are you talking budget or box office as Django and True Grit did pretty well.
True Grit only cost $38M, and Django $100M. That's probably another reason to say goodbye to $200M budgets, because 1/2 or less budget did well
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Old July 9 2013, 03:43 AM   #95
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Personally, I wonder how Disney execs are going to react if JJ Abrams stays true to form and delays the release date of Star Wars like he did his two Star Treks. Somehow, under these circumstances I don't think Disney is going to be as understanding as Paramount was.
Given Disney's one film a year strategy, I think the schedule is a bit more rigid. Also, as far as I know, Paramount's decision to move the release of Star Trek from December of 2008 to May of 2009 wasn't Abrams' decision, although it probably benefited the film.
I was more making a reference to STID, which had it's original release date of June 2012 postponed because Orci and gang needed more time on the script. Plus there was some talk around the time Abrams was announced as Episode 7's director that he was considering postponing the 2015 date. Details.

But, due to Disney's desperation for a franchise and their plan to do an SW movie a year, I really can't see Disney indulging Abrams the way Paramount did. Hell, there are already rumours Paramount is looking for a director who can guarantee Trek XIII by 2016.
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Old July 9 2013, 06:07 AM   #96
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Disney's 'Lone Ranger' Could Lead to $150 Million Loss

Reminds me of Disney announcing that John Carter flopping made them lose 200 million.
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Old July 9 2013, 01:05 PM   #97
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But, due to Disney's desperation for a franchise and their plan to do an SW movie a year, I really can't see Disney indulging Abrams the way Paramount did. Hell, there are already rumours Paramount is looking for a director who can guarantee Trek XIII by 2016.
I'm sure that Paramount is counting their blessings. Despite the fact that STID didn't knock it out of the park nor did World War Z both films are on track to make a profit for the company and create a long term viable franchise.

After Earth also flopped for Sony, you have to wonder if they are also worried about Elysium in August.
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Old July 10 2013, 07:51 PM   #98
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Disney's 'Lone Ranger' Could Lead to $150 Million Loss

Reminds me of Disney announcing that John Carter flopping made them lose 200 million.
Ironic in a way as:

Marvel's The Avengers allowed Disney to effectively shrug off John Carter of Mars

and it appears:

Iron Man 3 will allow them to absorb The Lone Ranger film's lacklustre BO performance.
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Old July 11 2013, 12:42 AM   #99
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Sound like Disney's new slogan should be:

Make Mine Marvel!

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Old July 11 2013, 01:18 AM   #100
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Disney's 'Lone Ranger' Could Lead to $150 Million Loss

Reminds me of Disney announcing that John Carter flopping made them lose 200 million.
Ironic in a way as:

Marvel's The Avengers allowed Disney to effectively shrug off John Carter of Mars

and it appears:

Iron Man 3 will allow them to absorb The Lone Ranger film's lacklustre BO performance.
Disney needs to learn to not make so many flops!
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Old July 11 2013, 02:18 AM   #101
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Sound like Disney's new slogan should be:

Make Mine Marvel!

('Nuff Said optional)
When all else fails go Marvel.


What will happen when they control 2015 with "star wars" and "avengers 2"?
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Old July 11 2013, 02:31 AM   #102
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What will happen when they control 2015 with "star wars" and "avengers 2"?
They'll really have nothing to worry about when the fifth Pirates film flops.
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Old July 11 2013, 03:26 AM   #103
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By 2020 Disney's live action movies will be nothing but Star Wars and Marvel movies.
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Old July 11 2013, 03:38 AM   #104
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By 2020 Disney's live action movies will be nothing but Star Wars and Marvel movies.
Remember, Disney also owns Pixar.
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Old July 11 2013, 03:43 AM   #105
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By 2020 Disney's live action movies will be nothing but Star Wars and Marvel movies.
Remember, Disney also owns Pixar.
Yeah, that was why I said live action. I had originally just said Disney, but then I remembered their animation and edited to specify live action.
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