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Old July 10 2013, 08:31 PM   #31
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Why can't they just leave Moore's stuff alone?


Like the way Moore leaves other peoples' characters and stories alone?
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Old July 10 2013, 08:32 PM   #32
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^I think the reason people get more upset about the shows FOX cancels than about the shows every other network cancels is because FOX has created or commissioned so many shows of the sort that attract loyal or cult followings. It's a fact of life that most shows of any category, on any network, get cancelled young. That's just the way television works. It's always a gamble and no show has any guarantee of survival. But genre fans care more about the shows on networks like FOX or Syfy, so their cancellations hit us harder and upset us more, even though they're not actually more common than cancellations on other networks. So we blame the networks for being mean to our favorite shows, when really those shows would never have existed at all if those networks weren't so committed to creating interesting genre shows in the first place. I mean, there's not as much loyalty for things like 666 Park Avenue or Cult or The Cape, so when they die young, it doesn't provoke as much ire.

Anyway, those shows you list are from decades ago. A network is not a continuous living entity. It's a company run by people, and the people who made the decisions to cancel those shows and Firefly have all long since moved on to other jobs. The people running FOX today, and for the past few years, have proven themselves to be far more supportive of genre shows, and far more willing to take risks to keep a show on the air, than their predecessors a decade ago. Really, holding a grudge against the current FOX regime for the way their forerunners handled Firefly or Alien Nation is like blaming President Obama for the decisions of Presidents Bush and Reagan just because they all have the same job. It doesn't make any sense.
Well, Obama blames Bush for everything, so...

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Old July 10 2013, 08:42 PM   #33
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I'm sure Alan Moore will be delighted to hear this.
I would imagine he'll be choking on his beard about now...
What a pleasant image.
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Old July 10 2013, 09:02 PM   #34
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FOX cancels show after 12 episodes?

6 depending on if they hire Summer Glau

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Old July 10 2013, 09:48 PM   #35
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FOX cancels show after 12 episodes?

6 depending on if they hire Summer Glau

Is it me or is Summer Glau cursed. Every show she's be on has been cancelled.
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Old July 10 2013, 09:49 PM   #36
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Well she just signed up for Arrow.
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Old July 10 2013, 09:52 PM   #37
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FOX cancels show after 12 episodes?
I don't think this should be treated as a joke. If I was the show runner I created mini-arcs about 12 episodes long so if the show gets cancelled, it leaves on a high note.


Oh and they should get Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock Holmes.
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Old July 10 2013, 09:52 PM   #38
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Old July 10 2013, 10:46 PM   #39
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Well, this probably won't be anything like the book or the movie, but I'm certainly up for a Steampunk show starring classic Victorian-Era characters.

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Old July 10 2013, 11:25 PM   #40
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Is it me or is Summer Glau cursed. Every show she's be on has been cancelled.
The problem with this idea is the same as the problem with the idea that FOX is some kind of showkiller: namely, they're both based on the assumption that a show getting cancelled is somehow unusual. The fact is, most shows get cancelled young. Renewal is the exception, not the rule. Television is like those nature shows where you see a whole litter of dozens of animal babies being born and they struggle to survive to adulthood but most of them get gobbled up or starve or wash away in floods and only a few live long enough to reproduce.

So: given: most shows get cancelled, period. Thus, the more shows you're involved with, the more cancellations you're involved with, inevitably. FOX cancels so many genre shows because it produces so many more genre shows than most networks. Summer Glau has been on so many cancelled shows because she gets hired on so many shows. Any actor who's worked as steadily as she has, who's been in demand as she has, is likely to have been associated with a number of cancelled shows.

(Look at, say, William Shatner. His most successful shows were T.J. Hooker and Boston Legal, both of which ran 5 seasons. He's also known for a little show called Star Trek, which managed a respectable three seasons but still got axed before its time. He had recurring guest roles in the final seasons of three long-running series, Dr. Kildare, Third Rock from the Sun, and The Practice. But he also starred in For the People, Barbary Coast, and $#*! My Dad Says, none of which even made it to 20 episodes, and the animated Star Trek, which got 22 episodes over two seasons. So the majority of the shows that Shatner's been involved with have been cancelled within a year or two of his initial involvement with them.)
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Old July 11 2013, 04:48 AM   #41
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Summer Glau has been on so many cancelled shows because she gets hired on so many shows.
She only gets hired on so many shows because her shows keep getting cancelled, freeing her up to be hired on other shows.
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Old July 11 2013, 12:28 PM   #42
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Also she gets hired on genre shows which have a higher rate of cancellation
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Old July 11 2013, 02:16 PM   #43
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I was entertaining a crazy notion of whether they could transplant the concept to a modern setting. I am not aware of any period settings on network television.
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I was entertaining a crazy notion of whether they could transplant the concept to a modern setting. I am not aware of any period settings on network television.
Next year there will be Dracula on NBC, starring Jonathan Rhys-Meyers (formerly of The Tudors).

And while there is a modern-day League, I'm unclear if the rights to that is included in what FOX bought years ago or if those rights are still with Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill. For that matter, if I were a television network, I wouldn't touch the modern League with a bargepole because it's a hotbed of copyright infringement that would be impossible to clear.
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Old July 11 2013, 05:30 PM   #45
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Summer Glau has been on so many cancelled shows because she gets hired on so many shows.
She only gets hired on so many shows because her shows keep getting cancelled, freeing her up to be hired on other shows.
And there are many, many actors you could say the exact same thing about. Most shows get cancelled. That is the norm, not the exception. There are far, far more short-lived TV series than long-lived ones. So any actor who's working steadily and prominent enough to be cast in lead or recurring roles is likely to go through a number of short-lived series.

The only reason Summer Glau gets noticed for this is because she gets noticed, period -- because she's a striking and memorable performer and people pay more attention to her career than they pay to a lot of other actors who've had very similar career arcs.
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