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Old July 10 2013, 12:53 PM   #61
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Re: Mulgrew so awful to Jeri Ryan she had to date Braga for protection

I just can't let an opportunity to say Kes wasn't hot pass me by

I'm petty like that.
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Old July 10 2013, 01:23 PM   #62
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Never mind, you're the perfect counter balance for Lynx.

It all cancels out.
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Old July 10 2013, 01:49 PM   #63
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21 year old Mulgrew would make a better Kes than Jennifer Lien did.

*Swoon*
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Old July 10 2013, 01:53 PM   #64
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It really is kind of hard for the young to be hot. Or so it seems as youth gets further away.

(yes I just said very young Mulgrew doesn't look hot..)
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Old July 10 2013, 02:20 PM   #65
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I assume the actors that play the captains all had a powerful influence on how the direction of their series went.

Shatner: Pissed that Nimoy's Spock was getting so much attention, but couldn't do anything about it. TOS was changed to being about Kirk and Spock friendship to give both actors enough screen time. Doctor was made the third part of trio due to the actor's talent.

Stewart: Pissed that Gates McFadden was forced to leave, had his part along with fanbase in getting her back. Wanted Action Picard in the movies, got that.

Brooks: Liked the Jake and Sisko family relationship so we got a bunch of that. Also thought racial issues for some reason would still be important in the future, so we got the bizarre "Far Beyond the Stars" and holodeck episode where Sisko complains about how blacks were treated in the past.

Mulgrew: Pissed that Ryan's Seven of Nine was getting so much attention, but couldn't do anything about it. VOY was changed to being about Janeway and Seven friendship to give both actress enough screen time. Doctor was made the third part of trio due to the actor's talent.
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Old July 10 2013, 02:24 PM   #66
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Those are some interesting beer goggles you have on Dream.
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Old July 10 2013, 02:30 PM   #67
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I have never worn beer goggles, teacake.
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Old July 10 2013, 02:30 PM   #68
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Then why is everybody pissed?
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Old July 10 2013, 02:34 PM   #69
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I never take mine off. The world looks less crappy that way...
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Old July 10 2013, 02:35 PM   #70
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Then why is everybody pissed?
Maybe I could have written that out better...

But I assume you got my points.
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Old July 10 2013, 03:03 PM   #71
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Huh? When did I blame Ryan for anything?
The question was rhetorical.

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Old July 10 2013, 03:14 PM   #72
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It's the Gates McFadden thing all over again, but they brought Crusher back after her missing season. Jennifer Lien getting fired probably destroyed moral for the actors on the set though.
It has been years since I sat down and watched the extras on the Voyager DVDs, but I do remember some of the actors, when talking about Lien, were sad to see her go. They didn't, of course, say anything about Ryan coming on board. But human nature being what it is, if what those actors were saying was true and they missed Lien, they could have at least initially resented having to work with Ryan, the reason Lien was essentially fired.

Mulgrew had no reason to complain. As captain, she always remained the lead character on the show.
Well, we don't know if any of this is true, but if it is, it could be any reason they didn't get along. Sometimes, people just don't like other people who didn't say or do anything wrong, and it is as simple as that, too. And, it doesn't mean a person is evil for not liking someone else for that, either.

But that said, and I am not saying I agree with it, but I can understand why Mulgrew would feel threatened. Ryan has not given me any reason to think she isn't anything other than she presents herself in public appearances, nor has Mulgrew for that matter, but I think one thing people must keep in mind is that actors and actresses go into acting (to varying degrees, and it is based on the individual) for the accolades and desire to be the center of attention. Some actors and actresses are very personally insecure, and anyone or anything that can potentially take that attention away (real or imagined), can cause anxiety for that actor or actress. This can be a reason for them to lash out.
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Old July 10 2013, 03:36 PM   #73
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never knew- but it may of given their characters some strong energy to work off
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Old July 10 2013, 03:50 PM   #74
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Also thought racial issues for some reason would still be important in the future, so we got the bizarre "Far Beyond the Stars" and holodeck episode where Sisko complains about how blacks were treated in the past..
I don't see how either of those episodes imply racial issues are important in the 24th century.
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Old July 10 2013, 05:12 PM   #75
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I just can't let an opportunity to say Kes wasn't hot pass me by

I'm petty like that.
I find Kes attractive and yes, hot in a way.

She was beautiful, Lien did a great job in portraying the character and she should have remained in the show.
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