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Old July 10 2013, 09:59 AM   #46
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I am not particularly a big fan of Mulgrew, Beltran or Ryan. I draw a line between the actor and the character. I love Voyager's characters, not so much the actors.
Judging from interviews alone, since I have not met them in person (YET!)...

I love Kate Mulgrew. I love her voice, her personality, and her humor. I've seen enough footage and heard enough interviews with her to make some sort of assessment and I just relate most to her. My favorite actor on the show to watch outside of Voyager would be Robert Picardo...however I love Kate. She didn't grow up in Hollywood, had a rather simple life before Voyager, and I think she probably tried pretty damn hard to get where she is.

I like Jeri Ryan and think she was kick ass as Seven, but something about her seems faker to me than Kate. However, I haven't seen as much footage with her, so forgive me if that seems like a premature assessment. Then there's that weird stuff with Jack Ryan about the sex clubs...and dating the show's producer RIGHT after. It's a little bit off-putting of her to expect everyone to just be fine with her dating the show's producer. Then she had to rub it in that she was treated better after? Also I am not a Republican, so we differ in that respect too. :P
I'm uncomfortable with judging celebrities on how they come across from a patchwork of impressions. Now sure, sometimes a celebrity is know far and wide for kindness or nastiness, but otherwise I'm going to assume most are the usual mix of good and bad stuff we all are.

When I saw Jeri Ryan (god I seem to be crapping on about seeing people too much here.. we have LOTS of conventions in this city, some as cheap as 25 bucks, I could literally see Star Trek actors at 6 cons this year.. ) she was quite self contained, some would say aloof, and quiet. Direct contrast to Mulgrew who is on stage as a performer and obviously loves every minute of it. I certainly didn't think Jeri was at all fake, she was just not particularly extroverted. I know she didn't do cons for a long time because of the stalker, so maybe she's never quite relaxed since. I got to effusively thank her for 7 during the autographs and she seemed genuinely pleased with what I said.. 7 is my favorite character and I am thankful that Jeri portrayed her so wonderfully and put so much into it.
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Old July 10 2013, 10:06 AM   #47
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And how is it Ryan's fault that Lien was dropped?
Huh? When did I blame Ryan for anything?
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Old July 10 2013, 10:09 AM   #48
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I'm wondering if Lynx has refused to read People ever since, even when waiting to see the dentist.
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Old July 10 2013, 10:38 AM   #49
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Urban legend has it that Mulgrew resented Jeri for Jennifer getting fired and would have taken out that resentment on anyone who was cast as "Seven of Nine". Urban legend is bigger than any of us.
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Old July 10 2013, 10:59 AM   #50
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Wouldn't the rest of them be freaking out that they could redshirt it since Lien hadn't been safe? Only the Captain was safe.
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Old July 10 2013, 11:05 AM   #51
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Urban legend has it that Mulgrew resented Jeri for Jennifer getting fired and would have taken out that resentment on anyone who was cast as "Seven of Nine". Urban legend is bigger than any of us.
Urban legends aren't true. That's why they are called Urban legends.
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Old July 10 2013, 11:08 AM   #52
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Just because you don't have alligators in your sewers doesn't mean everyone escaped such menace.
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Old July 10 2013, 11:20 AM   #53
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Urban legend has it that Mulgrew resented Jeri for Jennifer getting fired and would have taken out that resentment on anyone who was cast as "Seven of Nine". Urban legend is bigger than any of us.
Urban legends aren't true. That's why they are called Urban legends.
Mulgrew was shitty to Jeri, that's not in question. Time was a variable. If it lasted longer than a week, Kate's got a problem with her anger.

Now reportedly the seed of all this is either because Jeri was young and pretty, or because Kate's buddy got fired to make room for Jeri.

Flip a coin but if it's the latter, Jeri being much older and matronly than Jennifer, really calls bullshit on young and pretty being an issue worth spitting over.
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Old July 10 2013, 11:24 AM   #54
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Matronly?!

wth am I reading here.

OH..

Right.
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Old July 10 2013, 11:51 AM   #55
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Does 'matronly' mean big norks?
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Old July 10 2013, 12:09 PM   #56
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Does 'matronly' mean big norks?
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Old July 10 2013, 12:16 PM   #57
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Does 'matronly' mean big norks?
I'm all for season four's older, more matronly casting.
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Old July 10 2013, 12:18 PM   #58
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Jeri was a woman.

She replaced a younger much woman who could pass for a child.

Matronly.

It's relative.

How many comments have been made so far about Jeri being a hot young thing compared to Kate?

Jeri is not a hot young thing compared to Jennifer when this happened.

Hot, yes.

Hot and young, no.
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Old July 10 2013, 12:38 PM   #59
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Kes is not hot, was never hot, could never be hot. She went from being like some Happy Days girl in a poodle skirt to looking like a jaded PTA mom and there was no hotness in between. And yes I believe there are hot versions of both the poodle skirt and the PTA mom but Kes was not one of them. Ever.

Every single person on that ship including Neelix was hotter than Kes.
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Old July 10 2013, 12:51 PM   #60
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I didn't say Kes was hot.

I said that she was younger than Jeri.

That's it.

The 27 year old was older than the 23 year old.
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