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Old July 9 2013, 07:05 PM   #1741
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The book A Game of Thrones had minimal magic so it was more forgivable with Season 1. I actually have very few criticisms with the show's first year. Pretty much entirely faithful, and the stuff they did add was great. Robert and Cersei's conversation, the witty Littlefinger/Varys conversations, and a lot more Jaime than in the first book.

Then Season 2 was just... a mess. Theon's stuff was well done but every other plotline was fucked with too much.

Season 3 was a huge improvement. Though some of my favourite characters were ruined, such as Sansa and Stannis, it was much better paced and highly enjoyable. They got Jaime spot-on, though I've no idea how they're gonna excuse him not rescuing Sansa from King's Landing.
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Old July 9 2013, 07:12 PM   #1742
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Pretty much all the problems I have with season three stem from decisions I disliked in the making of season two. ("The season of romance" in-bloody-deed.) In terms of new decisions, I think they did all right given the aspects of the story they've chosen to focus the adaptation on.
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Old July 9 2013, 08:38 PM   #1743
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Robb's romance with Tulisa was cheesy and cliché, precisely the opposite of what A Song of Ice and Fire should be (Which is why I'm fucking hoping this Dany/Daario plot goes somewhere off-beat!). However, they almost made up for it when she and her unborn baby were stabbed to shit at the Red Wedding.
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Old July 9 2013, 10:03 PM   #1744
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

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The most significant appearance of The Others/wights in any of the books, namely the battle at the First of the First Men, was cut from the show, to make room for more Tyrell blathering. We got one wight instead.
I think that was pretty clearly a budgetary consideration.
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Old July 9 2013, 10:20 PM   #1745
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It wouldn't really have cost that much to have some wights attacking The Fist, especially if they had a fair bit of fog.
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Old July 10 2013, 04:56 AM   #1746
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The Tyrells are going to be around longer and are frankly more important than some relatively minor fight with some Zombies.
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Old July 10 2013, 05:17 AM   #1747
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It wouldn't really have cost that much to have some wights attacking The Fist, especially if they had a fair bit of fog.
They blew season two's budget on the Blackwater episode, they sure as hell weren't going to blow season three's budget on the first episode of that season!
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Old July 10 2013, 11:31 AM   #1748
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The Tyrells are going to be around longer and are frankly more important than some relatively minor fight with some Zombies.
I think setting up the threat of the Others properly is one of the most important things for the show to do.
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Old July 10 2013, 06:28 PM   #1749
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They've already done that adequately IMO, no need to splurge money when they don't have it.
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Old July 10 2013, 07:34 PM   #1750
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Different strokes for different folks. They have ample opportunity at other points in the story to show Margaery being a sassy schemer or Loras fucking random guys. There are few instances of magic in the books as it is, so as little as possible should be cut.
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Old July 10 2013, 08:40 PM   #1751
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Loras fucking random guys.
Which pissed me off anyways. In the book, when asked about finding love, Loras has the beautiful line, "When the sun has set, no candle can replace it." In the show, he doesn't even MENTION Renly while at the same time, lighting the first candle to come his way.
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Old July 10 2013, 09:40 PM   #1752
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(Some of) Game of Thrones characters in the style of The Simpsons:

http://drawthesimpsons.tumblr.com/image/54746737286
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^^^ Always love seeing those. Thanks for posting!
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Old July 11 2013, 04:27 AM   #1754
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Loras fucking random guys.
Which pissed me off anyways. In the book, when asked about finding love, Loras has the beautiful line, "When the sun has set, no candle can replace it." In the show, he doesn't even MENTION Renly while at the same time, lighting the first candle to come his way.
There's a difference between love and random sex.
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Renly and Loras are both hardly worth mentioning on the list of characters who are barely recognizable in the show, but remember that Loras was Renly's squire since he was a child. Renly was practically a big brother in addition to bring his lover (or rapist, some might argue, depending on how and how early their sexual relationship started). I can't see this Loras throwing himself to an almost certain death to siege a castle that the man who killed his lover isn't even in.

But seriously, after the shaving scene their characters were already well and truly assassinated.
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