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Old July 9 2013, 03:12 AM   #31
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^ And I doubt they spent any time outside other than what was absolutely necessary.
Yeah - right.

This recalls Richard Pryor's old joke - the one with the punchline "Okay, God, what am I doing in Cleveland?"


No, living in an environment sheltered from light for fifteen years is not going to bleach someone's natural skin color in any way that would account for the changes in Khan's appearance. What a ridiculous suggestion.
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Old July 9 2013, 03:28 AM   #32
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200 years in suspended animation didn't seem too, either.
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Old July 9 2013, 04:13 AM   #33
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No, living in an environment sheltered from light for fifteen years is not going to bleach someone's natural skin color in any way that would account for the changes in Khan's appearance. What a ridiculous suggestion.
I have very fair complexion, and stayed under shelter, but the rest of my family used to turn very dark from just two weeks of tanning at the beach.
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Old July 9 2013, 04:15 AM   #34
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200 years in suspended animation didn't seem too, either.
He wasn't actually tanned, that was just freezer burn. It eventually peeled off after they got to Ceti Alpha V.

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Old July 9 2013, 04:35 AM   #35
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No, living in an environment sheltered from light for fifteen years is not going to bleach someone's natural skin color in any way that would account for the changes in Khan's appearance. What a ridiculous suggestion.
I have very fair complexion, and stayed under shelter, but the rest of my family used to turn very dark from just two weeks of tanning at the beach.
Khan's naturally tan in Space Seed. Being sheltered from light wouldn't change that.
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Old July 9 2013, 03:44 PM   #36
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Yep, it was an attempt to make him look Indian, not tanned.
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Old July 9 2013, 04:02 PM   #37
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To be fair, though, Montalban himself was screwed out of the role of Mike Vargas by Charlton Heston in Touch of Evil; a Mexican born actor was denied the chance to play the role of a Mexican man, and it was played by some white guy.

Seriously, though, that is why they call them actors. Actors are people whose job it is to play a role of something they are not to entertain other people. Where does it say that an actor can only be the same ethnicity of the role they play?
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Old July 9 2013, 04:17 PM   #38
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To be fair, though, Montalban himself was screwed out of the role of Mike Vargas by Charlton Heston in Touch of Evil; a Mexican born actor was denied the chance to play the role of a Mexican man, and it was played by some white guy.

Seriously, though, that is why they call them actors. Actors are people whose job it is to play a role of something they are not to entertain other people. Where does it say that an actor can only be the same ethnicity of the role they play?
We'd lose a few classic performances if that was a rule. I don't think Brando was Italian. Pacino isn't Cuban. On the other hand we would han'tve to suffer through John Wayne as Genghis Khan.
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Old July 9 2013, 04:21 PM   #39
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Peter Sellers playing Inspector Clouseau disguised as Mr. Lo Kee.
Also Peter Sellers playing Hurundi V. Baskhi in the movie The Party.

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Old July 12 2013, 12:26 PM   #40
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Khan's naturally tan in Space Seed.
Is he? Did you see his butt?

Being sheltered from light wouldn't change that.
But something prevented his melanin from being as dark in ST II.
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Old July 12 2013, 12:36 PM   #41
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Maybe the Botany Bay cryogenic chambers were also tanning booths.
Once removed from them they started losing their tan.
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Old July 13 2013, 12:16 PM   #42
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We have a character that looks nothing like Khan, sounds nothing like Khan, and has a plot which could have been filled by anybody. I wasn't offended , I just didn't see the point of just throwing Khan away like that.
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Old July 13 2013, 12:35 PM   #43
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We have a character that looks nothing like Khan, sounds nothing like Khan
The same has been said about Scotty and Chekov. And Saavik and Cochrane.

I just didn't see the point of just throwing Khan away like that.
You sure he's gone?
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Old July 13 2013, 05:39 PM   #44
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We have a character that looks nothing like Khan, sounds nothing like Khan,
So what does Khan look and sound like?
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Old July 13 2013, 06:22 PM   #45
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We have a character that looks nothing like Khan, sounds nothing like Khan,
So what does Khan look and sound like?


And let's not even get into the fact that Khan was originally written in "Space Seed" to be some Scandinavian dude.
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