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Old July 6 2013, 04:09 PM   #76
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Shame the opening shot in Sins of the Father looks so bad! I watched it again last night, hoping it had been fixed after the sampler disc, but sadly it looked as fake as ever.
So the original footage of the BoP which was just footage of the ship from Star Trek III matted into the shot looks more real to you than the new CGI version?
In a strange way, yeah. The BoP looked more realistic. The new one just looks off to me, I can't really say why. The CGI Enterprise looks great though.

Actually I think it's how the shot was framed. The BoP is far too close to the Enterprise.
Of maybe it's one of those monster oversized BoPs, and it's actually further away than you think, but the perspective looks off because you think it's regular sized
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Old July 8 2013, 08:09 AM   #77
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Shame the opening shot in Sins of the Father looks so bad! I watched it again last night, hoping it had been fixed after the sampler disc, but sadly it looked as fake as ever.
So the original footage of the BoP which was just footage of the ship from Star Trek III matted into the shot looks more real to you than the new CGI version?
In a strange way, yeah. The BoP looked more realistic. The new one just looks off to me, I can't really say why. The CGI Enterprise looks great though.

Actually I think it's how the shot was framed. The BoP is far too close to the Enterprise.

It's not just the ships they changed, it's the lighting. I think new shot matches better and is far superior.
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Old July 8 2013, 09:36 PM   #78
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It's not just the ships they changed, it's the lighting. I think new shot matches better and is far superior.
Wasn't the original mission statement to keep things as close as possible to the original presentation with the exception of fixing obvious flaws (like wrong phaser beams)?

I still can't see what was "obviously" wrong with the original opening shot.
And if they changed that, why did they recreate the 4-footer in CGI and not use the CGI 6-footer they already had, instead. Well, you get the idea...

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Old July 9 2013, 12:51 AM   #79
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They didn't really change the shot other than to correct the perspective of the BoP. I think it looks quite nice.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/31565
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Old July 9 2013, 04:00 AM   #80
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The shot of the Enterprise exploding still looks like a tiny little model instead of a starship exploding in space. Cause and Effect I'm guessing. I wish that were replaced with CG...and most of the ship shots so we can get some variety...
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Old July 9 2013, 04:04 AM   #81
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As I said above, yes.
Your avatar's Enterprise D warp effect looks better than the one in TNG...it's at the correct angle!
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Old July 9 2013, 08:12 AM   #82
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Wasn't the original mission statement to keep things as close as possible to the original presentation with the exception of fixing obvious flaws (like wrong phaser beams)?
Yes, but if the original film stock was damaged or missing, CGI would be needed to fill in the blanks, which I believe was the case with this shot. However, I don't know if they found or repaired the original footage in time for the season release.
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Old July 9 2013, 07:49 PM   #83
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They didn't really change the shot other than to correct the perspective of the BoP. I think it looks quite nice.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/31565
I find the corrected perspective to be more akward than the original one. Plus, why would ships need to be perfectly alligned? They are communicating via viewscreens that can correct these things.

And looking again at that comparison, I finally figured out what was bodering me about the new CGI BoP: it's completely green! Yet, the bottom of the wings are supposed to be red.
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Old July 11 2013, 09:15 PM   #84
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I didn't mind the shot for the most part, the new elements look great. The part that I don't like about it is how the stars are rotating, yet the ship's don't change orientation even a single degree. Wasn't the new shot a digital matte painting?
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Old July 13 2013, 01:13 PM   #85
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Release date in Germany: 5. September. wtf!? o_O
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Old July 13 2013, 04:08 PM   #86
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I didn't mind the shot for the most part, the new elements look great. The part that I don't like about it is how the stars are rotating, yet the ship's don't change orientation even a single degree. Wasn't the new shot a digital matte painting?
The original shot does that too.
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Old July 13 2013, 04:56 PM   #87
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Release date in Germany: 5. September. wtf!? o_O
Are they trying to coincide with the release of Star Trek Into Darkness which is at or around the same time? If that's the release date in Germany than the American release date is not too far off. That seems rather quick since Season four is being released at the end of July. I would love it if this september release date were true, but I thought Season 5 would have a holiday release.
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Old July 13 2013, 07:44 PM   #88
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No, September 5 is the German release date for Season Four, not Five.

Five will be out at the back-end of the year
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Old July 17 2013, 01:17 AM   #89
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They didn't really change the shot other than to correct the perspective of the BoP. I think it looks quite nice.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/31565
I find the corrected perspective to be more akward than the original one. Plus, why would ships need to be perfectly alligned? They are communicating via viewscreens that can correct these things.

And looking again at that comparison, I finally figured out what was bodering me about the new CGI BoP: it's completely green! Yet, the bottom of the wings are supposed to be red.
Actually the perspective doesn't look right to me at all. The BoP looks like it's pointed more at the right edge of the saucer than the center of the ship.

Although I do think the CG BoP itself looks really good.
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Old July 28 2013, 07:54 PM   #90
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I wonder when the preorder information will be on Amazon. With Season 4 coming out, it's never to early to start thinking about Season 5 and what will be on it. God I hope they are able to get Ashley Judd for an interview. That would be awesome.
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