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Old July 7 2013, 11:50 PM   #2671
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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STID made more than ST09. There will be another movie. That's all I really care about on the silver screen front, anyway...
That's probably all Paramount and CBS care about, too. There's money to be made, therefore they make more.

My gosh why is that so hard to admit
Translation: "why don't people here agree with me ?"

Seriously, STID was a big success. Not a record-breaker, but still.

I see once again I am the one single voice.

When that happens, it's time to consider that you're the one who's wrong.
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Old July 7 2013, 11:52 PM   #2672
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Unless there are one or more unexpected breakout hits for the rest of the summer that gross more than $225 million domestic, Star Trek Into Darkness looks to end up as the sixth highest grossing summer release in the domestic market behind Iron Man 3, Despicable Me 2, Man of Steel, Monsters University, and Fast & Furious 6. Its worldwide ranking will be at least one rung lower and possibly a few rungs lower depending on how things shake out.
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Old July 8 2013, 12:42 AM   #2673
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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I see once again I am the one single voice.
I hate to spoil your meal of locusts and wild honey, out there crying in the wilderness—really, I do—but I'd appreciate it if you didn't keep trying to make this out to be a contest of you against everyone. Present a solid argument, however, and I'm pretty sure that argument will get all the respect it's due.

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Its the solid truth...all this are facts ...it is as truthful as saying the earth is round.
That the Earth is round is provable, and thus a fact. What you're bringing are not facts, and repeated earnest declarations that your claims are facts renders them no more factual than they were to begin with. At best, you've got details, and I don't think your interpretation of them is necessarily the correct one.
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Old July 8 2013, 02:01 AM   #2674
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Before Trek came out. another trusted entertainment site box office mojo said if STiD doesn't earn up to 250m in USA it would be a disappointment. Sadly, STiD has not done that.

Are you going to laugh at box office mojo as well?
No just you and the bubble you are living in. No one is trying to say it was a sucess on the level of Skyfall, TDKR, Iron Man 3 etc but the film had made a good profit broken franchise records and by the time all non box office $$$ are taken into like DVD/Blu Ray STID will have made Paramount a lot of money.
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Old July 8 2013, 03:23 AM   #2675
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

I thought the movie was f***ing stupid, but there's no doubt it was a success. It's going to continue to rake in the dough from bluray and DVD sales.
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Old July 8 2013, 12:35 PM   #2676
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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I thought the movie was f***ing stupid,
Just like I said in the Rise of the Federation book thread where I was one of the few that didn't like it: you can't win them all.
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Old July 8 2013, 02:10 PM   #2677
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After the recent "100 Greatest of All-Time" issue, I don't know how anyone can take anything Entertainment Weekly prints seriously.
I know.
I bought that issue and only thing that pop in my mind was......Where's Fargo?
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Old July 8 2013, 03:05 PM   #2678
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Think it might have made more if Khan had been revealed right from the start in the trailers? I appreciate they were going for the surprise but would they have been able to generate more buzz?
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Old July 8 2013, 03:14 PM   #2679
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I know some people will claim anything just to hate this movie. But to call Entertainment Weekly the most trusted news source of entertainment news? That takes the cellular peptide cake with mint frosting!
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Old July 8 2013, 03:17 PM   #2680
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Success or failure seems to be in the eye of the beholder. Just as a girl can seem beautiful to some and unattractive to others. If your standards were for STID to set all kinds of records and compete with many of the heavy hitting big budget blockbusters then it was a dissapointment. If you simply wanted STID to be commercially viable and make a profit to justify a sequel then the results were extremely satisfying.

I mean hey, you can argue whether the grass is green or every color but green . . . it only affects your perception of the object. It doesn't change the actual grass.
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Old July 8 2013, 03:45 PM   #2681
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Unless there are one or more unexpected breakout hits for the rest of the summer that gross more than $225 million domestic, Star Trek Into Darkness looks to end up as the sixth highest grossing summer release in the domestic market behind Iron Man 3, Despicable Me 2, Man of Steel, Monsters University, and Fast & Furious 6. Its worldwide ranking will be at least one rung lower and possibly a few rungs lower depending on how things shake out.
It'll also be behind "Oz, The Great and Powerful" which made $234 million domestic and $491 worldwide.

All and all, a good take for STID. But let's be honest, isn't there something at bit unsatisfying about the domestic numbers? In April, I'd have bet a week's salary the movie would've at least matched the domestic total from ST09.

Still, the take of the two movies show a return to relevance for the franchise, and that's probably good enough. At this date, assuming the third movie is as well-received as the first two were, put my prediction for the domestic box office take of the third movie at $262 million. (Which will mean adjusting for inflation, people will point out the movie didn't really bring in as much as ST09. There always has to be a hitch in things.)
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Old July 8 2013, 04:03 PM   #2682
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But let's be honest, isn't there something at bit unsatisfying about the domestic numbers?
Sure there is. I wanted Star Trek Into Darkness to do a billion-dollars and finally wipe away the stigma of being a Trek fan.

But it didn't happen. It doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed the movie immensely and like I said before, if this is the final movie then we went out on top. A movie that was a critical-success and a moderate box-office success.
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Old July 8 2013, 04:20 PM   #2683
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

I expected it to squeak past $450M, and likely wouldn't make $500M. So, in actuality, it's doing a little better than I expected, since it seems it will more than squeak by $450M
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Old July 8 2013, 04:22 PM   #2684
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It'll also be behind "Oz, The Great and Powerful" which made $234 million domestic and $491 worldwide.
I was talking about summer releases, which doesn't include Oz: The Great and Powerful, which was a spring release.
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Old July 8 2013, 04:43 PM   #2685
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But let's be honest, isn't there something at bit unsatisfying about the domestic numbers?
Yeah, there is.
None of that money went in my bank account.
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