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Old July 1 2013, 11:58 AM   #31
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Re: Why No Romulan Ships?

I doubt they'd have had the knowledge to do that though, given the secrecy of Pressman's plan. Or the resources, the research capacity etc.
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Old July 1 2013, 02:43 PM   #32
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I doubt they'd have had the knowledge to do that though, given the secrecy of Pressman's plan. Or the resources, the research capacity etc.
The Borg assimiliated Romulans. I'm sure at least a few of them understood how to build and/or maintain a cloaking device. I don't know that they'd have knoweldge of something like a phasing cloak because that was classified, but a basic cloaking device should have been known throughout the Collective. That Janeway didn't at least ask Seven about it is surprising.

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Old July 1 2013, 03:39 PM   #33
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I would have liked to have seen more classes of Romulan ships. I mean, withthe Klingons we had Ktingas, Vorchas, BOPs. But with the Rommies, it was always the Warbird. OK, and Vreenak's shuttle.
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Old July 1 2013, 04:09 PM   #34
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I would have liked to have seen more classes of Romulan ships. I mean, withthe Klingons we had Ktingas, Vorchas, BOPs. But with the Rommies, it was always the Warbird. OK, and Vreenak's shuttle.
We also had the Valdore from Nemesis.

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Old July 1 2013, 04:19 PM   #35
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Re: Why No Romulan Ships?

I agree between the whole Derna thing- and fighting on other fronts there is no reason for them to be too close to Bajor
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Old July 1 2013, 04:59 PM   #36
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And the Valdore might have been just developed during the Dominion War, like the Sovereign class- designed to meet a need but not deployed in the fleets yet.
As we saw in ST-Enterprise lots of races had clocking technology so the Borg probably had assimilated a number of ways of doing it. They never really bothered with it on their ships because they never cared if you saw them or not, when they showed up you were toast anyway. Voyager could have added a cloak if Janeway did not mind ignoring an Alpha Quadrant restriction but that would have made the trip home have a lot less drama to base stories on.
I like the idea the it would have been too complicated to use a Klingon version of the Cloak on the Defiant due to the Treaty with the Romulans, since they wanted info and and were paranoid enough to have the best possible cloak technology...
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Old July 1 2013, 09:43 PM   #37
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I would have liked to have seen more classes of Romulan ships. I mean, withthe Klingons we had Ktingas, Vorchas, BOPs. But with the Rommies, it was always the Warbird. OK, and Vreenak's shuttle.
I always liked that they only seemed to have one ridiculously massive ship. There's something arrogant and complacent about it which seems very Romulan.

Do we ever see a Warbird kill a Dominion ship? I can only remember them getting torn apart in the two Chintoka battles. Oh and in The Die is Cast.
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Old July 1 2013, 09:46 PM   #38
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^They weren't featured that much. I remember them only firing at random ships but never destroying anything. Their flagship was destroyed during the Battle of Cardassia that ended the war.

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Old July 7 2013, 09:07 PM   #39
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I remember them only firing at random ships but never destroying anything.
Which, oddly enough, was what basically all ships in the Alpha Quadrant forces ever did.

Only the two Defiants, the Klingon Birds of Prey and just possibly some Galaxy class ships were shown actually destroying enemy vessels. The latter did it by the old, cheap method of covering their targets in fireballs, after which the camera turned away and we never learned if the fireball did any real harm to the target. (Several episodes featuring attacks against DS9 proved that giant fireballs caused no harm to the station, and were in fact a sign of "shields holding"...)

This is a rather odd VFX directing decision. I understand it is hugely expensive to show a dramatic loss such as those of the Majestic and the Sitak, so such might be sparsely used, and mostly on hero ships that the audience would care about. But fireball-style cheap deaths (now you see it, now you don't) of enemy vessels could have been prominently shown being scored by ships other than the Defiant or the Rotarran, yet it's virtually impossible to point out such kills in the battle scenes. It's only the heroes dying, not the villains.

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