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Old July 6 2013, 09:32 PM   #31
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A box that comes with hot water and electricity. Yes there must be some status otherwise there would be no beach not covered in mansions. It's a shame all we see of future evolved humanity is on starships though, where the captain's quarters are smaller than an average apartment. Picard's estate doesn't count since that has been in the family through WWIII.
But Picard doesn't actually need a lot of material stuff out in space. He can replicate books, clothes, food, furniture (if he wants something other than Starfleet Standard)... and recycle it when he's done with it. If he wants it back again, he can replicate it again. And for everything else, there's the holodeck.

Whereas in the 21st century... well, I now own a Kindle, but that doesn't mean I've stopped buying physical books. And I don't own much furniture that isn't dedicated to holding books, tapes, DVDs, various other things in my SF collection, or else it's furniture to facilitate using my computer and my craft activities.

In other words, I do not own either a couch or dining table. Neither is important to me since I live with my cats, and hardly ever have company. My TV is small, and my cats have more "luxury" furnishings than I do!

So Picard doesn't need the space to accommodate all his material wants and needs at the same time. Unlike me, he doesn't need to be literally surrounded by shelves and shelves of physical books to feel comfortable.

I believe there must be an underclass of creative and/or whacky drop outs who find having everything stifling, just as we have people today who find having everything (which we do) stifling. I want to know what the graffitti looks like in the 24th century on earth. I hope there is still yarn bombing.
I may regret asking, but WTF is "yarn bombing"?
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Old July 6 2013, 11:04 PM   #32
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http://www.google.co.nz/images?q=yar...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ
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Old July 6 2013, 11:29 PM   #33
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Actually, some of that is rather artistic and cheerful. The only equivalent I can think of locally is in winter, when somebody feels sorry for the statue of my city's founder. The statue is sitting on a park bench on the corner of Gaetz Avenue and Ross Street, the middle of downtown. They put a toque and scarf on him so he doesn't get cold.
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Old July 6 2013, 11:40 PM   #34
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How well is the Lincoln memorial guarded?

Kids must be falling off Abe all the time.
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Old July 7 2013, 12:24 AM   #35
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Actually, some of that is rather artistic and cheerful. The only equivalent I can think of locally is in winter, when somebody feels sorry for the statue of my city's founder. The statue is sitting on a park bench on the corner of Gaetz Avenue and Ross Street, the middle of downtown. They put a toque and scarf on him so he doesn't get cold.
Yes "artistic and cheerful" is the very thing it is

I get excited every time I see yarn bombing and there's rather a lot of it in Melbourne at times.

And good point about the replicator and the stuff. Being able to just order up something cool and then toss it back in knowing you can get it again.. OMG! I COULD SHOVEL MY WHOLE HOUSE INTO IT! and then anything I actually missed I could reclaim!

I can see that though plenty planet side would still want actual objects with histories it would not be uncommon to live a very minimalist life, just making what you want at the time and not holding onto it because it's always available. Perhaps this is why Janeway's quarters are full of historical pieces that look like she raided a museum's gift shop, the only items the minimalists cherish are things with actual history attached to them. And personal sentiment, such as her photo of the dog and that man who gave up on her.
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Old July 7 2013, 03:09 AM   #36
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Yarn Bombing? Seems like something hipsters or hippies would do. I dislike such things...

I look around at my room in my house and I can see so much stuff that wouldn't be here if I had a replicator. So many knick knacks and shelves of books and what have yous that I would have shoved back into the replicator after I was done with them and would just re-replicate if the mood struck me to use them again. Heck, most of the things I collect (action figures and what not) would never exist physically if I could just replicate what/who I want for displaying purposes when the mood struck me.

I also see things with historic or personal value to me that would remain on display rather than be used as matter for the replicator.

I would have so much extra wall/floorspace...
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Old July 7 2013, 05:41 AM   #37
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Yarn Bombing? Seems like something hipsters or hippies would do. I dislike such things...
You dislike public art?
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As long as it can be quickly removed without damaging whatever it's covering, I don't see the problem with yarn bombing. It's not like TP-ing, which can be a to remove.
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Old July 7 2013, 06:01 AM   #39
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Bombing, by some definitions, is art without permission.

Public art, by some definitions, is the town council handing over a wad of rates payers money after you've put forward a prospectus and they agreed-to or censored part to all of your vision, and green lit whatever husk survived committee, probe and commission.

Knitting takes a very long time. Even knitting the bulk of your undetonated yarn bomb elsewhere means that this "art" is going to take weeks in construction... Unless it's just something the "artist" acquired from a salvation army thrift shop, and then picked and unpicked the seams which lacks any soul to the endeavour whatsoever.
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Old July 7 2013, 06:05 AM   #40
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Yarn bombers usually don't bomb things that are going to cause problems for anyone. Tree trunks, bicycle racks, sign posts..
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Knitting takes a very long time.
Much of it is crochet, which doesn't.

And okay, don't call it public art if it's too specific a term (which I don't think it automatically is).

Here's some nice pics from Yarnbombing Day: http://www.buzzfeed.com/alannaokun/i...ound-the-world
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Old July 7 2013, 07:06 AM   #42
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Public art is fine.

It's just the difference between art someone asked for, and vandalism everyone has to learn to live with until they have a spare weekend and a hundred bucks worth of paint to white wash errant graffiti off the side of some poor bastards place of business.

What happens after the elements causes the yarn to rot?

Is that some sort of health hazard?

We could be talking about the start of a plague.
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Old July 7 2013, 07:44 AM   #43
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It worries me deeply. Afghans are a dangerous lot.
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What happens after the elements causes the yarn to rot?

Is that some sort of health hazard?

We could be talking about the start of a plague.
Depends on what kind of yarn was used. There are pure wools, wool/acrylic blend, pure acrylic, silk, bamboo, cotton, and some really weird synthetics. I have to use acrylic in my craft projects because I'm extremely allergic to wool - can't stand to touch it for even a second, because it's physically painful and causes a rash.

The birds don't mind, though. They're quite happy to adopt bits of stray yarn to use for their nests.
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I knitted something once. A blanket. Aaaannnd.. that's it for me.
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