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Old July 5 2013, 10:25 PM   #16
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I have to rewatch the episode, but were there even enough people left to build a diverse genetic pool?
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Old July 5 2013, 10:54 PM   #17
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I have to rewatch the episode, but were there even enough people left to build a diverse genetic pool?
I wonder if that's a question we're meant to ask since TNG had Picard rescue another similarly sized race.
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Old July 5 2013, 11:03 PM   #18
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I have to rewatch the episode, but were there even enough people left to build a diverse genetic pool?
I wonder if that's a question we're meant to ask since TNG had Picard rescue another similarly sized race.
If you're talking about Homeward, Picard didn't save them Nikolai Rozhenko did. And his motives weren't entirely altruistic.
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Old July 5 2013, 11:23 PM   #19
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What I'm saying is are we meant to assume they're going to die out in a generation or two or are "saved"?
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Old July 5 2013, 11:35 PM   #20
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What I'm saying is are we meant to assume they're going to die out in a generation or two or are "saved"?
Just because the writers don't think through the scenario thoroughly, doesn't mean we shouldn't.

I don't think there were enough Boraalans to survive in a hostile environment. Either the planet or inbreeding one would get them.
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Old July 6 2013, 12:15 AM   #21
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What I'm saying is are we meant to assume they're going to die out in a generation or two or are "saved"?
As I said, the characters seemed rather cheerful in the final scene in the captain's mess, so I think it's pretty clear that it's meant to be a happy ending, that Nadet convinced the Novans to trust the Enterprise crew and accept relocation.
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Old July 6 2013, 01:43 AM   #22
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Old July 6 2013, 11:35 AM   #23
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Terra Nova is among the bottom 1% of all Star Trek, so I really don't see a point in wasting time analyzing the moral issues around it.

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Old July 6 2013, 03:15 PM   #24
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^And yet you still made the effort to talk about how it wasn't worth the effort to talk about...
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Old July 6 2013, 06:16 PM   #25
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Terra Nova is among the bottom 1% of all Star Trek, so I really don't see a point in wasting time analyzing the moral issues around it.

Just my 2c
That one-percent is usually the episodes that offer the most stimulating discussions. I know the time I've spent discussing the bad episodes is far more than the time I've spent discussing the good episodes.
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Old July 7 2013, 12:30 AM   #26
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I can't understand why people hate Terra Nova. I thought it was interesting and touching. I liked seeing a failed colony years later and why.
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Old July 7 2013, 12:37 AM   #27
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It just seemed overly cliche to me from the name Terra Nova to the overused radition destroying civilization forcing the to live under ground and naturally hating the evil surface people who forced them to live like this. Not to mention the premise of the episode makes no sense. No one bothered to check in on this colony... ever? It's easier to go under ground and live there than to just... walk away? And why do weapons in Enterprise never hurt people?
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Old July 7 2013, 12:51 AM   #28
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Not to mention the premise of the episode makes no sense. No one bothered to check in on this colony... ever?
Star travel wasn't easy before the Warp 5 engine. It would've taken months to get there, and with no certainty of what they'd find, maybe it wasn't deemed worth the risk. Although I suppose they could've asked the Vulcans to find out.


It's easier to go under ground and live there than to just... walk away?
Spending too much time above ground would kill them. A large portion of the planet was irradiated. They couldn't have walked far enough before they succumbed to the radiation. Remember, they had to be transplanted to a whole other continent on the other side of the planet. Not exactly within walking distance.
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Of course it's not explained why no one asked the Vulcans to check it out.. but maybe the Vulcans have spent the last umpteen years making it very clear they will never check anything out for the humans?

As to the cliche, I think we're all on a cliche arc where a particular one will just tip us over the edge on that topic.
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I can't understand why people hate Terra Nova. I thought it was interesting and touching. I liked seeing a failed colony years later and why.
It's kind of a 'meh' episode. It's not terrible, but nothing really distinguishes it either.
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